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It has to set some precedent though. Either there are valid reasons to violate copyright are there aren’t.
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Ok reading a little more the class has been certified but it hasn’t gone to trial, so there’s still a possibility of a closed-door settlement of some sort, though given the number of parties involved that seems unlikely. Maybe I’m just being optimistic. But if it goes to trial and makes it to judgement there will either have to be cases where using copyrighted materials to train AI (which seriously how is that not for generating derivative works) is found to be ok, or copyright will be held sacrosanct and the whole gen AI industry will have to pay… something. Punitive damages would make the industry cease to exist overnight, and I’d bet most publishers would prefer a check instead.
That presumes precedent still matters. cough Dobbs cough
Supreme Court: What’s precedent again?
For all those cheering on the copyright mafia going after Anthropic, consider that some of the groups supporting anthropic against this massive overreach of “we get to decide how you use our works” include:
- Authors Alliance
- the Electronic Frontier Foundation
- American Library Association
- Association of Research Libraries
- Public Knowledge
Maybe this is not such a great thing?
It’s pretty simple: if Antropic wins, that’s the end of the US copyright law, replaced by the diktat of the tech bros (worse for artists, and for anyone else but the tech oligarchs). If Antropic loses, nothing changes and we get to fight the (comparatively tiny) copyright mafia for another day.
if i understand us law procedures correctly it could actually strengthen copyright law by becoming a precedent
In which way do you expect this to strengthen copyright laws? Also, from the article, it reads like Anthropic implicitly admits to copyright infringement, and that their defence essentially boils down to “if you prosecute us, we will go bankrupt”. I don’t see how that flies, but then again, IANAL :-)
i don’t know, but there have been cases in other areas where failure to convict have basically become grounds for not prosecuting those cases. again, i don’t know much about common law, it’s not used here.
Indeed. I want AI companies to get regulated into smithereens, but not through expansion of copyright law. There would be too much collateral damage, and it wouldn’t even work.
