• phlegmy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        15·
        4 months ago

        Not enough AI. Gotta use the webcam+AI to set the timezone to one that’s most frequently used by people of whatever ethnicity it thinks you are.

        • thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          4 months ago

          no no, it just needs your location data every second to make sure it’s set to the correct time zone. Microsoft and their 1.8 million partners decided that the clock can’t work without your location data.

          (I’m joking, for the inevitable person that’s going to try to disagree)

    • 0ops@piefed.zipEnglish
      21·
      4 months ago

      Hi I’m Clock Copilot

      Set up an alarm at 7:53 am? Statistically this when most people wake up.

      No

      Set a 8:00:85 timer? To make you feel better about your dead grandma?

      No

      *Sets an 2:30 am timer anyway

    • Shady_Shiroe@lemmy.worldEnglish
      9·
      4 months ago

      “Hello, I’m your AI chat companion that consumes mass amounts of energy to help consult you on what time you should wake up to be efficient with your energy and time, how may I help?”

      • sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        7·
        4 months ago

        Replacing some code/bug that‘s been present since xp probably would be my second guess.

        I’m still waiting(but not really) for them to fix the rdp app(msstore) but instead they killed it and now we have the „windows app“. What the fuck is even that backwards nondescript name.

          • sfxrlz@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            4·
            4 months ago

            I was kinda hoping for the last 2 years. at my most recent ex workplace we had to manually apply every update (website basically) via rdp/teamviewer or whatever. So it would’ve been relatively nice to use the rdp tool which allows you to group and save your connections, if it wasn’t for the simple fact, that this application would crash your system‘s Explorer every time meaning you can’t copy shit. So i checked again and again and sure enough instead of fixing this one not that minor bug, they completely abandoned the application in favor of the windows app which our system administrator would’ve had to configure first, so it would not work at all. Thankfully I don’t have to cosplay as a ci anymore so all things considered nah I’ve stopped waiting for anything from ms. As you said it’s not worth it.

  • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    71·
    4 months ago

    And why the fuck is windows always “preparing” to do something!? Are you generating a record of my activities to phone home with? Just do the damn thing!

  • wuffah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    59·
    4 months ago

    I recommend Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC, which is supported until 2032 and has never required me to update my fucking clock or calculator, never crashed my SSD, and never randomly encrypted my hard drive and lost the recovery keys! And, there’s no OneDrive, Copilot, Recall, Cortana, Clippy, or whatever else Microsoft’s cocaine addled executives have come up with this week to FUCK us.

    Since thats the standard for operating systems we’re working with now, I’d say this one is pretty good!

    Here’s how you can purchase your copy today!

  • Krudler@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    4 months ago

    Just a moment

    Progress bar at 100%

    Progress text reads “complete”

    Wait 2 hours

  • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
    50·
    4 months ago

    I installed Windows 11 on my new office PC yesterday, and it took hours.

    • The initial boot took forever because it decided it needed to do an update as part of the install,
    • Then after install when you enter your Microsoft account details so it downloads the entire internet including OneDrive (gross),
    • Then you switch to AU locale because despite saying I’m in Australia during install it’s set me up as US language and currency and imperial measurements etc but Melbourne timezone (also incorrect),
    • Then you uninstall and disable all the stupid Candy Crush and celebrity news (in the start menu?? why??) and LinkedIn and Xbox gaming crap and all this other stuff that just appears,
    • Allocate another day to uninstall all the MS Office stuff I don’t want (especially OneDrive),
    • Then you can install Firefox and Thunderbird and Nextcloud and Libre Office and Irfanview and accounting software,
    • And finally everything starts syncing and away we go time to be productive…
    • Jokes! Critical update and it’s time to reboot multiple times.

    I can boot from a Ventoy USB and have a new distro installed and working on my laptop in under an hour ffs.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      16·
      4 months ago

      This has happened twice now: I’ll build a new PC about the time my father will buy a tower from Dell.

      Mine comes in 4 boxes from 3 vendors over the course of a few days. His arrives fully assembled with an OS installed.

      I take 3 or 4 hours to put the machine together, boot into a Linux live session, let the installer run, I get up and do something else while that goes. When that’s done, I boot into the OS, run a big ol apt or dnf or whatever command to install most of the software I like, that runs for awhile, that installs my backup software. I restore a file backup from my old machine, that runs for an hour or so, gotta love spinning rust external hard drives. And then I’m moved in and up and running.

      My father, meanwhile, will:

      • Erase the copy of Windows that Dell included on the machine and install it fresh, which might be the only way to actually remove McAfee.
      • Spend an entire week, full time, installing software. Downloading setup.exes from vendor websites, running install wizards, telling Windows “Yes, put these program files in the Program Files folder” several dozen times in a row, installing some stuff to include MS Office from disc, which Windows increasingly fights him about.
      • Somehow also taking a rather long time manually restoring file backups.
      • Tweaking settings for DAYS.

      I’ll have an SSD fail. I’ll go to Best Buy, buy another off the shelf, pop the thing in, and either reinstall the OS and my software, which is a rather straightforward automatic process, or simply restore my most recent file backup, which is a couple clicks, depending if it’s my / or /home drive.

      My father…look, some men build model train sets, some men paint, some men plant gardens, some men fish, my father backs up his computer. I have a cabinet full of HIS backup hard drives because he’s playing pretend he has “offsite backups.” When he suffers an SSD failure, he:

      • Comes over to my house to monologue about it for 5 to 10 minutes
      • Spends an afternoon on the phone with Dell. At some point he convinces them to honor the warranty he paid extra for.
      • 1.5 weeks later the one service tech Dell has for this state arrives with an SSD and installs it.
      • Engage the full manual reinstall business, because 1. he’s got his whole system on one drive, and 2. for some reason he isn’t willing to actually use the full system image backups he takes.
      • tiramichu@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        6·
        4 months ago

        Irfanview is definitely one of the image viewers of all time.

        When I moved away from Windows one of the things I missed was the super lightweight image viewer from the XP and 7 days (even on Windows 10 I used to still copy the exe over from a backup because it was way better than the bloated shitty Photos app, or whatever Microsoft was trying to push)

        I really wanted a replacement image viewer that was minimalistic, lightweight, and supported deleting images with a keystroke from the viewer - a feature absolutely essential as I like to arrow-key back and forth through photos and trim the fat, a feature many viewers somehow don’t support.

        After trying out just about every option there was, my favourite has ended up being qView.

        It’s FOSS, cross platform (Linux, macos, Windows) and pleasantly fast.

        https://interversehq.com/qview

        • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
          3·
          4 months ago

          I’ve been using it for… god, feels like centuries at this point. Nothing else will do.

          It also has an awesome compression if you resave oversized iphone photos for quick 'net sharing

        • PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          XnView is quite feature-complete for my needs, but it’s constantly trying to phone home to Google, so better run it in a sandbox.
          Geeqie is better in several ways - e.g. it supports avif and jxl - but it’s missing some features I’ve come to like.
          I’ve yet to try qView.

          • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
            1·
            4 months ago

            XnView is what I currently use as a Temu Irfanview on Linux. But it’s so awkward compared to Irfanview - everything seems to involve clicks or loading galleries or choosing templates every time. Irfanview does everything I want within a button press or two, and being able to just loop through directories with the mouse wheel is awesome.

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        10·
        4 months ago

        I see and acknowledge your /s, but the serious answer is Ventoy doesn’t but many Linux distros offer OneDrive support out of the box and the onboarding process will help you set it up.

    • alehel@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      4 months ago

      Considering all the OSS you’re using, why not run Linux? Not permitted by work?

      • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
        6·
        4 months ago

        The accounting software we use (which does NOT run under WINE, despite many hours trying to make it so) and Irfanview are my sole remaining reasons. At home everything is some flavour of Linux.

        Also the lack of virtual filesystem support for Nextcloud is a secondary factor. Important as my Nextcloud storage is significantly larger than a reasonably priced SSD. I believe it’s technically available in a bit of an alpha stage under Linux now though?

        • death_to_carrots@feddit.orgEnglish
          4·
          4 months ago

          Nextcloud supports webdav, which you can just mount as a virtual filesystem either with GVFS or some KIO slave. AFAIR there is a fuse implementation as well.

          For your single application a Windows VM may be suitable. Maybe even on some remote system in your company cloud. Single application forwarding is a long established technique.

          For IrfanView itself I don’t know the capabilities, so can’t advise on it.

          • Kay Ohtie@pawb.socialEnglish
            1·
            4 months ago

            Most folks using irfanview started using it as an image viewer 10-15 years ago and never gave native ones on other OSes a chance. Maybe there’s an obscure format it supports but honestly I’ve actually found others to support more.

            • JcbAzPx@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              4 months ago

              Personally, I found Irfanview with Ghostscript to be the easiest way to turn multipage color PDFs into single page black and white tiffs with a simple repeatable script. I don’t know if there’s a better way to do that now, but I don’t have to anymore.

              As to just viewing images, it wasn’t even all that much better than windows viewer at the time. It really shined as a lightweight image manipulator.

    • SparroHawc@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      4 months ago

      Don’t forget the whack-a-mole of finding which ‘features’ got turned back on with the critical updates.

    • 18107@aussie.zoneEnglish
      8·
      4 months ago

      If you still want (or need) to use Windows, I’ve found Ninite to be a great time saver.

      I really need to try Ventoy. I’ve had 3 people recommend it to me so far.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        4·
        4 months ago

        Ninite was clutch back in my Windows days.

        Ventoy works pretty well, though some people will tell you not to use it due to there being transparency issues with the source code (something about “BLOBS”? I dunno, I’m not a programmer).

        • That Weird Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          1·
          4 months ago

          Blob means that it’s a precompiled binary. Which may or may not be open source. Probably not, or they’d just distribute the source with it and not need to use a blob.

  • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    4 months ago

    My wife came to me saying her laptop wasn’t working. She was on it last night. It was forcing a Windows account login. Shift-10 disabled so I couldn’t bypass.

    Microsoft can straight fuck itself after this. Trying to brick an 8 year old laptop with a local account. Fuck that noise. My wife is gonna have to learn Linux.

    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
      15·
      4 months ago

      trying to reinstall Windows on a used computer I got recently sent me over the edge. holy fucking shit that was so complicated. there is just no way to install windows without a Microsoft account now, their documentation is both out of date in some locations, non-existent in others (posts removed), and seemingly up-to-date yet incorrect in other locations. I followed the instructions for installing with a Microsoft account and then unlinking it, and it was fucking hell. I had to do some back door shit (not really, but stuff that the average user doesn’t stand a chance of doing) in order to get my account actually unlinked so that I could sign in with the local credentials

      I will not be buying Microsoft again. just going to transition slowly as Windows 10 fades away

      • terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        15·
        4 months ago

        Download pro, during install before setting initial account: shift+f10 (may have to hold fn key if laptop). When the cmd box opens type oobe\bypassnro hit enter an PC reboots. Disconnect networking. Say I don’t have internet. Now you can do local accounts.

      • That Weird Vegan@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        2·
        4 months ago

        I installed Windows 11 on my machine a few months back because i couldn’t get Cities Skylines 2 to run properly under linux. What a fucking mess. only had it for a few hours before i went back to linux. Ahh the serenity.

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
    39·
    4 months ago

    We replaced “Clock” with ClockPilot. It is so much better! Go ahead ask Clock Pilot what time it is!

    You: Clockpilot What Time is It?

    🤖 Clockpilot: “Ah, an excellent question! It’s breakfast time in 12 different countries, next week already in New Zealand, and—wait, hang on—did you know Saturn’s day is only 10.7 hours long? If you were there, you’d already be late for bed.

    …Anyway. Locally speaking: it’s … thinking …did you adjust for Daylight Savings, quantum drift, or whether your cat stepped on your keyboard last spring?

    Would you like me to set an alarm for:

    Your next existential crisis, The heat-death of the universe, or Dinner?

    You: Clockpilot I said WHAT TIME IS IT!

  • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
    27·
    4 months ago

    Clock needs an update? To decimal time, or what?

    Or did they have to patch it because they managed to build a security hole into the original?

      • SpaceCadet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        12·
        4 months ago

        So why does that need a whole new clock app? That would just be an update to tzdata on a Linux system.

        • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.worldEnglish
          6·
          4 months ago

          I remember seeing this update on some machines I set up for work and wondering the same. It occurs the first time the clock app is launched, and the “update” is really just pulling the time zone data and setting the clock to what is accurate (internet based world clock), seperate from the bios time it was going off of prior to that. It’s really just looks worse than it is.

          • untorquer@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            4 months ago

            Yeah but that shouldn’t be so data or read/write intensive that you need an entire splash. Should take less than a second on any hardware capable of running w11.

            Is it just doing some weird backend patching to make it compatible with the rest of windows somehow?

            • ricecake@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              4 months ago

              It makes sense in a weird way, but it doesn’t feel right for a clock. You need to account for the case where it does take longer than it should to update, because sometimes it will for any number of really weird reasons. So you can’t just design for the best case scenario.
              Now that you have a splash screen you need to ask yourself if it’s better to show the splash screen while doing the update, or to just let the app be unresponsive for the common case of a moment and then show the splash if it goes over that.
              The answer is to show the splash in the common case too.
              Now people are seeing a “weird screen” for a moment before they can process what they’re seeing. So you need to make the screen have a minimum display time to keep people from being confused.

              It’s weird, but people can sometimes be more confused by thinking something happened too fast.

              • untorquer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                4 months ago

                Good arguments for any given program, just hard to imagine they’re still valid for a clock. There’s no other example i can’t think of that a clock has noticeable startup delay or even update time. In the most charitable wording this is exceptional, a unique example amongst the broadest class of programs.

                I now realize it’s probably not worth attempting to convince me to not be cynical, i’m having as much trouble as OP with this lol. Thanks for your thoughts though.

                • ricecake@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  1·
                  4 months ago

                  Oh, don’t get me wrong. It’s odd for a clock to act this way, just not inexplicable. At best it’s an example of UI standards being applied without regard to sense, which is very much in line with Microsoft.

                  Most other clocks will do something similar, they just do it in the background. Something that’s a lot easier to do if you’re not following a UI framework that says you’re never allowed to change something in a way that might cause the user to see a weird shift. Other things just acknowledge that clock sync should only take a few milliseconds before the clock is even visible, that a timezone DB update will rarely cause a change of more than an hour, and that a user will probably not even notice if there’s a shift.

              • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.worldEnglish
                1·
                4 months ago

                Not that I’m thinking about it I bet it’s because the clock is a local app when the OS installs, but if you sign into a Microsoft account they probably re-install the clock from a Microsoft Store version. Which would give it the ability to auto sync features pertaining to your calendar and shit. So items you put in your Microsoft Planner will integrate automatically. Meaning of you use a local account there is likely no update, but if you sign in all your tasks, calendar items and shit likely automatically populate into it.

                Bet they tried to integrate it into copilot or something as well, so like in Android if you told Google assistant or Gemini to set an alarm it is able to add it directly to you calendar and such.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    4 months ago

    Also Clock is now an Electron app running in its own instance of Chromium, because the devs are afraid of static typing, thus everything needed to be in Javascript.

    • whats_all_this_then@programming.devEnglish
      5·
      4 months ago

      This makes me sad. I get using electron for cross-platform stuff like VSCode or all the other examples (trying to do desktop apps with decent looking UIs that work across Linux/Windows/Mac is a nightmare) but the clock that only works on windows? WPF and/or WinUI ARE RIGHT FUCKING THERE WHAT THE HELL?!

      THEY’RE YOUR FUCKING PRODUCTS, MICROSOFT!!!

  • bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    25·
    4 months ago

    I installed win11 in a vm just for fun, then ran the deblpat script. The amount of shit that removed was astonishing.

    Still sucks ass but at least its not as bad as a damn emachine from 2005. Win 11 performance is so damn shit.

    • kadu@lemmy.worldEnglish
      30·
      4 months ago

      What absolute scares me is how even if you download Windows Enterprise IoT, which already comes extremely clean out of the box, and then run your favorite debloating script (removing even more crap)… the system still shows a noticeable delay when opening the right click menu, or the start menu, or a new Explorer window. So the most basic possible tasks, that you do constantly, for some reason are slow on a modern multi-core processor and a clean build of the OS.

      How the hell did they manage to downgrade… the start menu? the right click menu? How?

      • jjjalljs@ttrpg.networkEnglish
        19·
        4 months ago

        I read they’re using react, the JavaScript library, for the start menu. If true that strikes me as insane

        • dyc3@lemmy.worldEnglish
          19·
          4 months ago

          They’re likely using react native (Microsoft has pretty much gone all in on react for new ui things). It’s not as crazy as it sounds, the majority of cross platform mobile apps use react native.

          It’s important to note that it’s not a web browser that’s rendering the ui. The way it works is that react native provides a way for js logic to define the ui declaratively (kinda like HTML), then react native calls platform native components to do the actual rendering. So you declare <Button> and what comes out on the other end is a real, genuine windows-provided button.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      4 months ago

      And if you don’t reboot it like every ten days, services are guaranteed to not reenable and shit will start breaking. I see it daily, and people look at me weird wondering why they have to reboot their shit so often, thinking I’m lying to them and saying “reboot”.

    • tiredofsametab@fedia.io
      5·
      4 months ago

      I’m old enough to have been through this in IT (that and leapseconds) and it’s what my mind first jumped to (well, other than enshitification).

  • banazir@lemmy.mlEnglish
    19·
    4 months ago

    I recently installed Windows 10 after a few years of Linuxing and holy shit, the updater is just bad. I had more fun running Gentoo updates back in early 2000’s. How is Windows updater so slow? How is it so bad at informing the user what’s going on? How is it that every open source package manager I’ve used handles update infinitely better? Microsoft has a lot engineers, what are they doing with their time? Why is it so bad? Like, just, why?

    • fading_person@lemmy.zipEnglish
      7·
      4 months ago

      Microsoft has a lot engineers, what are they doing with their time?

      probably replacing everything with Ai, so that they don’t get replaced themseves

    • brax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      7·
      4 months ago

      Windows is horrible at informing in general. The event viewer is a terrible mess to get through, too. I wish I could get paid as much as Microsoft to deliver products as bad as Microsoft.

    • Zink@programming.devEnglish
      4·
      4 months ago

      Using a modern package manager in Linux after being used to windows for a decade or two was absolutely stunning.

      But it was not unique. I see that kind of difference all over the OS as well as in FOSS vs commercial apps.

      The difference in design motivations and important stakeholders is pretty obvious!

  • UncleGrandPa@lemmy.worldEnglish
    18·
    4 months ago

    "Exact time is no longer available. For the precise time, subscribe to Clock com. Thank you for upgrading "