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JERUSALEM, Nov 19 (Reuters) - Israel published video on Sunday of what it described as a tunnel dug by Palestinian militants under the Gaza Strip’s biggest hospital, a focus of its search-and-destroy missions against Hamas in a war now in its seventh week.
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TLDR of Newsweek Article:
Fact Check: Did Israel Build Bunker Under Shifa Hospital?
The Ruling: True
Multiple sources have corroborated that a bunker or basement was built at Israel’s discretion in the 1980s.
It remains unclear whether Hamas operates the space beneath the hospital as a major military headquarters, even though the IDF has presented evidence of weapons stashed in the hospital.
To be clear, I personally think a concrete basement and a bunker are two different things, but without more details it’s difficult to know what the reality is.
I also find it annoying that the IDF video has multiple cuts and jumps, rather than showing directly from how you get to this tunnel from the hospital proper.
It makes it incredibly difficult to compare it to the building plans from then to see if this tunnel is indeed new or not. Which is maybe on purpose by the IDF on how they made the video?
For those curious:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/newsweek/
Bias Rating: RIGHT-CENTER
Factual Reporting: MOSTLY FACTUAL
Country: USA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rating: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Magazine
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: HIGH CREDIBILITY
MBFC, a site run by one guy for which nothing is known (other than that he shares a name with a highly respected lawyer and professor). Truly the bastion of free and honest journalism. His methodology for grading has… No methodology. It’s entirely subjective.
MBFC also rates the Electronic Intifada and Moon of Alabama as having never failed a fact check. Can I start posting EI articles, too?
It’s one data point, and I wouldn’t rely solely on the Media Bias/Fact Check website. It’s a useful tool, but not the end all be all authority on bias and factual reporting. If you have something similar or better I’d love to see it.
They describe their methodology on each page, along with multiple links to multiple sources citing direct examples.
Their methodology is literally “this is the number I feel like they deserve”
Only if you don’t read anything on the page and ignore all of the evidence they present.
So this is a new tunnel that didn’t exist before? And is not a part of the large basement tunnel complex Israel made when they built al-Shifa in the 80’s?
Haha you’re funny
Free Palestine.
From Hamas
And from Zionism
That word makes most people see you as the problem
Why
Since no one is bothering to answer, I’ll attempt to explain that perspective.
Many people see “Zionist” as coded language. Similar to how racists often call Black People “Thugs” in America.
Right or wrong, if you start throwing around the term “Zionist” a significant number of people will tune out to what you are saying.
To many, it also implies you anti-Israel and do not believe in a 2 state solution.
So what is the term for the large Israeli faction that seeks to occupy Palestine, has no problem stealing land or bombing children? Basically the people in charge now?
You’re not allowed to talk about that.
The Zionist community has tried really hard to conflate Zionism with Jewish identity, to the point where anything critical of Israel and Netanyahu’s regime is seen as antisemitic.
The word for this was literally never zionists. Zionism is simply the belief that the state of Israel, as a political entity, should exist.
To be clear, I have no interest in arguing this point. I only want to add context.
I think the only people who see it as coded language are those who want to avoid the fact that Zionism is religious nationalism.
Most people I come across these days that aren’t zionist shills can clearly tell the difference between anti-zionist and anti-semite.
It’s pretty obvious when you’re dealing with a zionist shill because it’s impossible for them to be even the slightest bit critical of Israel.
Maybe there are some higher-level shills that are trained to be critical of Israel to be more convincing, though.
Is this according to the same Israel that called a water reservoir an “opening into the Hamas tunnels?”
The same one that released a faked video of a “nurse from al-Shifa?”
The very same.
What strikes me is the complete discordance of the realities of Israelis and Palestinians shown in the pictures attached to the article. There’s multiple pictures of a grand funeral with flags, pomp, and circumstance…and compare that to the white sheets and mass graves in Gaza. The Israeli soldier gets a military funeral with honors and fanfare while innumerable Palestinians are interred in barely marked mass graves with little to no ceremony because the number of dead simply does not allow for paying respects to each victim.
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Country invades another country. Is outraged to find that country’s military.
This is more like “is outraged to find out a hospital has a basement”
This is more like “is outraged to find out a hospital has a basement which they themselves built years ago"
Ngl, I am not surprised. Hamas average
