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      Similar to Russia, as the government makes the economy worse, more people will be willing to join the army. In the US&A, it’s a much easier decision compared to Russia. Most soldiers don’t risk their lives and get killed by drones; they just need to overcome their conscience and commit atrocities against innocent people.

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    I was recruited for two tacos and a large horchata.

    dead ass, was walking from high-school with a friend, and two sailors pulled up along side us and told us they’d buy us mexican food if we came with them to the recruiter station. and naturally, of course we got into the strangers car who promised us tacos.

    Turns out they were two sailors who had just graduated basic and we briefly back of leave and decided to drop in on their recruiter. Anyways, they made good on their promise of tacos, so I went ahead and took the asvab then and there. Did well enough to get a 10 grand signing bonus offer on the spot (this was in 2001, before 9/11). And realistically, I didn’t have any plan for after I graduated (I was a few years early to graduate because I was doing dual enrollment). So I kinda just said… fuck it and signed up.

    My thinking at the time? It was a guaranteed paycheck; I knew I wouldn’t starve; it would eventually pay for college; and it was going to give me a hiring preference for other federal jobs down the line. It would give me time to figure things out, and it wouldn’t be wasted time. Also, it would get me out of the house and let me “have a plan”, and maybe I’d actually get to see some places. Growing up as poor as I did, the military was basically the only option I would have to do those kinds of things.

    Anyways, a few months later 9-11 happened. They gave me the option to drop (I had depped in but hadn’t shipped out yet). But nah. I stuck with it. It really did give me advantages later in life, and because of my rate and the timing, I didn’t get wrapped up in WoT/Iraq/ Afghanistan. Did my time, got out. Very close friends of mine weren’t’ so lucky.

    And honestly it was a hugely eye opening experience and really guided my politics. I would download shows like Democracy Now! because I could download it for free and was something I could put on mp3 and rip to a CD. The US military, at least the enlisted ranks, is one of the most diverse work forces on the planet. It really gets you out of your space and shows you the true diversity of (at least, the poor/ working class) of America.

    I’m communicating this not because I think it in any way justifies what I did or what new recruits might decide to do. I’m mostly putting this out there to give one example of what a teenager who goes and signs up might be thinking.

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      You allegedly signed up when only the most tuned in people expected a war.

      These fuckers are signing up when we just got done a forever war and are threatening to invade Canada. And the military is increasingly being used against the US domestically.

      So fuck off with that “understand where the SS are coming from” bullshit.

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        Say you’ve got a young relative or some one you are mentoring who is considering this kind of decision?

        How would you expect to convince them to make a different decision if you yourself don’t understand or can’t empathize with why they are making a decision?

        Its a 🪱 🧠 level of understanding to think that understanding why some one makes the decisions they make or has the thoughts they have indicates in any way that you agree with them. Understanding why someone makes a decision they make is not equivalent to agreeing with them, and its a mental deficient to avoid understanding someone because you don’t agree with them. Its precisely because you don’t agree with them that you should strive to understand them.

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          No. I do understand them.

          They are willingly signing up to hurt other people for their own benefit. Their neighbors to the North and their friends and family at home.

          There is nothing more that needs to be discussed. It is not “mental deficient” to not spend time listening to a republican talk about how trans people should die and it is not “mental deficient” to not keep telling someone oppressing others for an orange rapist is evil.

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      Yeah my factory built out a lot of production and hired a bunch of people to make battery components, and it looks like that’s drying up. I wouldn’t be surprised if we retool and start making bomb parts. 💀

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        there’s little overlap unless usaf decides to use samsung galaxy note 7 as warheads. unless you’re making generic printed boards out there, then it can go into anything

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          We make and weld the steel components we punch out of sheet metal, battery side plates and housing and stuff.

          But we can retool to make any other number of steel components if they refit the presses with different die sets. I for instance operate a welding press and weld nuts onto different structural parts that are punched with the bigger presses.

          We could totally retool for missiles or drones or military transport if they decided the battery thing isn’t working out.

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            yeah and german toy makers were critical in supplying parts for arty fuzes in ww1. (i heard that soviet milk bottle filling machines could be repurposed for filling shells with molten explosives - both are dispensed hot, size is similar, not sure how real it is). company making complicated machinery out of many parts, requiring tight tolerances, made on-site, that already has tooling to make most of gun parts probably except barrels, makes sense that it could be pressed to make simple handguns.

            so what. manufacturing got much more specialized, so that even if in past car factory could crank out entire tanks, they probably can’t do it today easily (parts, sure, even entire engines and transmissions. not armor plate, or ceramics, or tungsten inserts or whatever these have). that factory could make stamped steel parts of jdam, but probably not much more. mk80 series shells are basically 30cm-ish wide, 1cm-ish thick steel tubes, with notches on inside and necked down while hot from both sides. can’t do that without highly specialized machinery

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    🌍: “Soooo America, why did you start that war?”

    🇺🇲: “idk man…I suddenly had all these guys sitting around and it kinda started getting a bit expensive 🤷‍♂️,”

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      This is the exact reason the Continental Army was disbanded after the revolution, to prevent this from happening.

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        The US constitution implies we’re not meant to have a peacetime army. It gives congress powers to “raise” an army and “raise and maintain” a navy.

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    You want college, bud?

    You better get ready to kill brown people, ruin your (mental) health and be the boot the plutocratic policeman of the world presses on the necks of the majority of nations on this planet!

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    I mean, ngl, even as a Canadian, the idea of joining the military is always my plan Z, if all else fails.