• Godric@lemmy.world
      6·
      2 months ago

      I’m genuinely laughing out loud, such a wild comment out of left field caught me totally off guard. I don’t think I’ve seen such stupid malice in actual years

  • blunderworld@lemmy.caEnglish
    34·
    2 months ago

    Anyone who has this strong of a reaction to something so inconsequential must be a deeply unhappy person. It sucks to suck.

    Also, anyone who calls someone a ‘fag’ is a complete fucking moron. I doubt things will improve for them with so few brain cells to work with.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
    25·
    2 months ago

    Jesus christ! What the hell is wrong with people???

    I’m on ZorinOS, but I gotta say, this is the dark ages of PC. Windows is full on dog shit, Mac always has been expensive as fuck, and Linux just doesn’t have the userbase to rely on companies making their programs available for the format.

    On top of that linux has ALWAYS has had a very terminal based culture.

    I’ve always said and continue to believe that linux CAN BE good for the average nontech minded folk. The way this happens is Flatpak becomes the dominant format in program installation. Terminal doesn’t have to change, it can still be used exactly as it is, but it takes a backseat in terms of how the system is presented to newbies.

    If I look up how to fix X problem on linux, I should by default find a GUI based solution. YOU can still use terminal to do whatever you do. I myself don’t get it. The average user doesn’t get it. I find solutions online. They say “Put this command in terminal”. I do that, it goes as expected. And then “ok, now run these commands” and the first few go as expected. And then it will spit out some error that I don’t understand. “ERROR THE L LISTS AREN’T COMBOBULATED TO THE FCAP COMPORRIUM” or some shit. What the hell??? What am I supposed to do with that??? So you copy the error, ask online what it means, and they say “Oh, your L Lists just need to be updated to the new repository. Just sync your flabarts to the chukchuk.”

    And thats about the time I lose my temper and decide to just get really drunk and watch the big bang on over the air tv, because what the hell does any of this matter anyways if I can’t even install a simple program, and update some drivers?

    Now. Let’s rewind. What if linux, regardless of distro had the same flatpak store, the same interface for it, and some under the hood settings that are standard across the board? The rest of the distro can be whatever, but you should have a reliable way to change and update basic shit.

    And for those of you like the guy in this threads photo, who are going to bombard me with death threats and insults, just consider this. People have been saying Windows is unusable dog shit since the 90s. Mac has always been unaffordable for most people. And Linux is free, and supposedly 1000% more stable in every way. Yet last time I looked, Linux, on the rise, had an all time high user base sharehold of 5.49% of the PC market. If you think I’m wrong, explain why Linux isn’t not just the leader, but the dominant leader. Being free AND better should make it the obvious choice, but it’s clearly not. There’s a reason for that. And it’s terminal.

    Right now we’re living in the dark ages of PCs. We got windows at it’s all time worst, mac expensive as always, and linux still pushing users away by far.

    • shalafi@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
      12·
      2 months ago

      Windows just fucking works. Bitch all you want about every other aspect of the OS. It just fucking works. And that’s all 99.995% of users give a shit about.

      I install Windows, I expect every driver to work. Far cry from how it was back in the day! Linux? Well, good luck. The most basic shit will work, but you got weird problems to sort out.

      And almost all of the Windows problems bitched about on here? I get downvoted every time I say, “Uh, I don’t have those issues.” Probably because I’m running a plain-vanilla ISO? I honestly don’t know.

      Lemmy: “Fuck you! You DO have those issues! I read about it in a Linux-loving forum like lemmy!”

      • bryndos@fedia.io
        5·
        2 months ago

        Guess what, just like you dgaf about all the windows issues i have that you don’t; i also dgaf about all the linux issues that you have that i don’t.

        It should be a mater of choice, but it isn’t. I don’t get a choice about windows for 7.5 hours a day because too many humans are fucking cunts - plus a lot of anti-competitive business practices and grooming lncompetence in corpo procurement . I don’t really blame ms for that i blame people who keep paying them to make their shit worse, and the procurement rules that they come up with to bend themselves over that barrel.

      • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        Anyone can buy a computer that comes with Linux or a computer known to work well with Linux and have the same experience

          • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
            4·
            2 months ago

            When I’m shopping for one I simply consider Linux support a requirement. Same as you don’t just buy Xbox games and hope that they work in your ps5.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldBannedEnglish
          4·
          2 months ago

          My experience is installing the OS on any given PC or laptop. Of course a purpose-built machine, with the OS pre-tweaked, will rock out! No question!

          But take any given machine, throw Win11 or a Linux ISO (take your pick) on there, you’re fucking about with Linux far more than Windows.

          It’s not hard for people like us, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation in this forum. But “normal” people are going to struggle with getting Linux setup. And keep in mind, Linux is totally alien to people who have always used Windows.

          • michaelmrose@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 months ago

            Normal people should either buy a computer with Linux just like they would windows or Mac or google model of computer + Linux before buying.

            Its weird to compare apples not only to oranges but to moldy oranges when this isn’t the actual user experience.

            People who do continue to use Linux don’t just keep buying random hardware and hoping it works because they have search engines.

            No onboarding process with randomly chosen hardware with hostile OEM is ever going to be good enough for people who are stupid lazy and cheap.

  • remon@ani.social
    10·
    2 months ago

    I really learned to appreciate the Linux people after meeting the FOSS crowd. These people literally make me want to pay for software.

      • remon@ani.social
        3·
        2 months ago

        There is definitely an overlap but I think Linux users are more like vegetarians, they cut out the commercial OS from their diet and are content with that. FOSS people are more like militant vegans … they won’t be happy unless everyone else has to use the shitty software they do.

              • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
                2·
                2 months ago

                “is veganism a virtue”

                sounds like a topic for a debate

                like, it certaily is on paper, from a moral standpoint of causing less harm to the environmant

                but “the environmant” is a really vague term. After all, by not allowing John Flesheater have his steak, you’re still technically harming an animal, just morally this time :D (and possibly in terms of health a bit, if there are some kind of external dietary limitations in a given local region)

                Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

                But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

                I think veganism is a vanity that we can afford given the right circumstances, that some cultures also try to dress up as a virtue. So if one derives joy or piece of mind from it, they shoule do it as long as they do.

                oof sorry, not coming drunk to lemmy again :D

                • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  4·
                  2 months ago

                  Another problem is that farm animals don’t talk much about their feelings, ro we can’t really know if we’re actually harming them, thus we can’t say whether we’re helping them by stopping the process.

                  Pure cope. We know how badly animals are hurt by factory farming methods, and there isn’t a non-factory method that I’m aware of that can meet the demand for meat.

                  But that raises another question: “how one would know if they’re happy, if they never experienced happiness?”

                  How do I know you’ve ever been happy? I’ve never seen it, so I can assume you haven’t, right? (This is how nonsensical your argument sounds. We can see farm animals get excited about things the experience, like happy cows skipping to their field)

                • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
                  1·
                  2 months ago

                  judging by the depth of reasoning of my opponents so far, veganism is not only not a virtue, it’s a cope of the fact that ahy life form is inherenly cruel towards the other in a system with limited resources.

                  I’d like to be dabated tho, cuz it sounds kinda not nice.

        • lemmus@szmer.info
          7·
          2 months ago

          “Shitty software”??? Basically most of non-FOSS software is shitty. Its not because we want to use shitty software, but we better use shitty software that gets better overtime, than shitty software that only gets worse. Also why everyone else has to use it?? Idgaf what you use, but I’m only angry, when you decide to pay for shit software, instead of donating the better and more free software, thats the only thing that makes me angry about people.

            • lemmus@szmer.info
              1·
              2 months ago

              Right, Imma continue using shitty lemmy, mastodon and linux and be happy with it :) You suck Gates, Altman’s, Zuck’s cocks and also I wish you being happy with it :) Ig you like it 😈

        • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
          6·
          2 months ago

          i mean, there are degrees to everything

          Just a year or two ago I would’ve said that i don’t even understand why linux exists. Now i’d rather say that windows should stop being a thing asap, as it brings nothing but problems and stagnation to consumer electronics, and nowadays it goes the same for any major proprietary software piece.

          What can i say, i hope the era of corpos is nearing its end, and we’re the witnesses

          • remon@ani.social
            2·
            2 months ago

            Oh, I totally agree with that. I like Linux/FOSS.

            It’s the people that post about it online that are insufferable.

            • CheesyFox@lemmy.sdf.org
              4·
              2 months ago

              currently

              we’re the people

              or at least i am :D

              also, how would others know about all that cool free stuff that i found, that’s actually cooler that the paid one 🥺🥺🥺

              foss doest have any marketing budgets, so of course foss users would blabber about it all over the place.

              so, like, seriously, what’s the alternative here?

  • MithranArkanere@lemmy.world
    10·
    2 months ago

    I don’t dislike linux, I dislike all the work people mention to me when I say I don’t use it because I’m as lazy as futurama’s lazy moon man. The response to that is usually a long list of taks they claim to be a very easy way to install Linux. I don’t care how hard or easy it is. I only do one thing. If I have to do two things, that’s too many things to do.

    Call me when someone makes a distro that is as lazy as an android phone: press a button, all gets done on its own.

    • volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz
      2·
      2 months ago

      For real, I am even calling over friends for help to set up a Windows PC or a printer. I have absolutely no idea about technology and computers. I want something easy and mainstream because this way I have an easier time getting support. Two steps are one step too much. I have a lot of strengths but understanding tech is definitely not one of them. And frankly, I neither have the time nor interest to learn anything about it. I have a great respect for linux and I have fond memories of playing a game on my dad’s computer, but it’s not something that’s for me.

    • Electricd@lemmybefree.net
      2·
      2 months ago

      Most of it is habits

      You’re used to windows so it doesn’t seem like that to you

      If you do simple normie stuff, it’s super easy. For more advanced users, yea it’ll require some knowledge

    • Thteven@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 months ago

      There’s a difference between being lazy and being unwilling to learn. I’m not trying to proselytize at you, but Linux can be as hard or as easy as you want it to be. Shit, I’m lazy too lol.

      I’m running Cachyos because everything worked right out of the box with my hardware and it plays all my games without having to configure anything besides clicking on the “install gaming packages” button. It’s based on Arch though so you could install that instead and set it all up yourself to tweak it to your heart’s content. That’s kind of the beauty of it.