Jesus christ! What the hell is wrong with people???
I’m on ZorinOS, but I gotta say, this is the dark ages of PC. Windows is full on dog shit, Mac always has been expensive as fuck, and Linux just doesn’t have the userbase to rely on companies making their programs available for the format.
On top of that linux has ALWAYS has had a very terminal based culture.
I’ve always said and continue to believe that linux CAN BE good for the average nontech minded folk. The way this happens is Flatpak becomes the dominant format in program installation. Terminal doesn’t have to change, it can still be used exactly as it is, but it takes a backseat in terms of how the system is presented to newbies.
If I look up how to fix X problem on linux, I should by default find a GUI based solution. YOU can still use terminal to do whatever you do. I myself don’t get it. The average user doesn’t get it. I find solutions online. They say “Put this command in terminal”. I do that, it goes as expected. And then “ok, now run these commands” and the first few go as expected. And then it will spit out some error that I don’t understand. “ERROR THE L LISTS AREN’T COMBOBULATED TO THE FCAP COMPORRIUM” or some shit. What the hell??? What am I supposed to do with that??? So you copy the error, ask online what it means, and they say “Oh, your L Lists just need to be updated to the new repository. Just sync your flabarts to the chukchuk.”
And thats about the time I lose my temper and decide to just get really drunk and watch the big bang on over the air tv, because what the hell does any of this matter anyways if I can’t even install a simple program, and update some drivers?
Now. Let’s rewind. What if linux, regardless of distro had the same flatpak store, the same interface for it, and some under the hood settings that are standard across the board? The rest of the distro can be whatever, but you should have a reliable way to change and update basic shit.
And for those of you like the guy in this threads photo, who are going to bombard me with death threats and insults, just consider this. People have been saying Windows is unusable dog shit since the 90s. Mac has always been unaffordable for most people. And Linux is free, and supposedly 1000% more stable in every way. Yet last time I looked, Linux, on the rise, had an all time high user base sharehold of 5.49% of the PC market. If you think I’m wrong, explain why Linux isn’t not just the leader, but the dominant leader. Being free AND better should make it the obvious choice, but it’s clearly not. There’s a reason for that. And it’s terminal.
Right now we’re living in the dark ages of PCs. We got windows at it’s all time worst, mac expensive as always, and linux still pushing users away by far.
Windows just fucking works. Bitch all you want about every other aspect of the OS. It just fucking works. And that’s all 99.995% of users give a shit about.
I install Windows, I expect every driver to work. Far cry from how it was back in the day! Linux? Well, good luck. The most basic shit will work, but you got weird problems to sort out.
And almost all of the Windows problems bitched about on here? I get downvoted every time I say, “Uh, I don’t have those issues.” Probably because I’m running a plain-vanilla ISO? I honestly don’t know.
Lemmy: “Fuck you! You DO have those issues! I read about it in a Linux-loving forum like lemmy!”
Guess what, just like you dgaf about all the windows issues i have that you don’t; i also dgaf about all the linux issues that you have that i don’t.
It should be a mater of choice, but it isn’t. I don’t get a choice about windows for 7.5 hours a day because too many humans are fucking cunts - plus a lot of anti-competitive business practices and grooming lncompetence in corpo procurement . I don’t really blame ms for that i blame people who keep paying them to make their shit worse, and the procurement rules that they come up with to bend themselves over that barrel.
My experience is installing the OS on any given PC or laptop. Of course a purpose-built machine, with the OS pre-tweaked, will rock out! No question!
But take any given machine, throw Win11 or a Linux ISO (take your pick) on there, you’re fucking about with Linux far more than Windows.
It’s not hard for people like us, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation in this forum. But “normal” people are going to struggle with getting Linux setup. And keep in mind, Linux is totally alien to people who have always used Windows.
Jesus christ! What the hell is wrong with people???
I’m on ZorinOS, but I gotta say, this is the dark ages of PC. Windows is full on dog shit, Mac always has been expensive as fuck, and Linux just doesn’t have the userbase to rely on companies making their programs available for the format.
On top of that linux has ALWAYS has had a very terminal based culture.
I’ve always said and continue to believe that linux CAN BE good for the average nontech minded folk. The way this happens is Flatpak becomes the dominant format in program installation. Terminal doesn’t have to change, it can still be used exactly as it is, but it takes a backseat in terms of how the system is presented to newbies.
If I look up how to fix X problem on linux, I should by default find a GUI based solution. YOU can still use terminal to do whatever you do. I myself don’t get it. The average user doesn’t get it. I find solutions online. They say “Put this command in terminal”. I do that, it goes as expected. And then “ok, now run these commands” and the first few go as expected. And then it will spit out some error that I don’t understand. “ERROR THE L LISTS AREN’T COMBOBULATED TO THE FCAP COMPORRIUM” or some shit. What the hell??? What am I supposed to do with that??? So you copy the error, ask online what it means, and they say “Oh, your L Lists just need to be updated to the new repository. Just sync your flabarts to the chukchuk.”
And thats about the time I lose my temper and decide to just get really drunk and watch the big bang on over the air tv, because what the hell does any of this matter anyways if I can’t even install a simple program, and update some drivers?
Now. Let’s rewind. What if linux, regardless of distro had the same flatpak store, the same interface for it, and some under the hood settings that are standard across the board? The rest of the distro can be whatever, but you should have a reliable way to change and update basic shit.
And for those of you like the guy in this threads photo, who are going to bombard me with death threats and insults, just consider this. People have been saying Windows is unusable dog shit since the 90s. Mac has always been unaffordable for most people. And Linux is free, and supposedly 1000% more stable in every way. Yet last time I looked, Linux, on the rise, had an all time high user base sharehold of 5.49% of the PC market. If you think I’m wrong, explain why Linux isn’t not just the leader, but the dominant leader. Being free AND better should make it the obvious choice, but it’s clearly not. There’s a reason for that. And it’s terminal.
Right now we’re living in the dark ages of PCs. We got windows at it’s all time worst, mac expensive as always, and linux still pushing users away by far.
He’s a huge racist and a trump loving MAGA. He isn’t getting hatemail for not liking Linux
Welp. That part I didn’t know.
Windows just fucking works. Bitch all you want about every other aspect of the OS. It just fucking works. And that’s all 99.995% of users give a shit about.
I install Windows, I expect every driver to work. Far cry from how it was back in the day! Linux? Well, good luck. The most basic shit will work, but you got weird problems to sort out.
And almost all of the Windows problems bitched about on here? I get downvoted every time I say, “Uh, I don’t have those issues.” Probably because I’m running a plain-vanilla ISO? I honestly don’t know.
Lemmy: “Fuck you! You DO have those issues! I read about it in a Linux-loving forum like lemmy!”
Guess what, just like you dgaf about all the windows issues i have that you don’t; i also dgaf about all the linux issues that you have that i don’t.
It should be a mater of choice, but it isn’t. I don’t get a choice about windows for 7.5 hours a day because too many humans are fucking cunts - plus a lot of anti-competitive business practices and grooming lncompetence in corpo procurement . I don’t really blame ms for that i blame people who keep paying them to make their shit worse, and the procurement rules that they come up with to bend themselves over that barrel.
Anyone can buy a computer that comes with Linux or a computer known to work well with Linux and have the same experience
My experience is installing the OS on any given PC or laptop. Of course a purpose-built machine, with the OS pre-tweaked, will rock out! No question!
But take any given machine, throw Win11 or a Linux ISO (take your pick) on there, you’re fucking about with Linux far more than Windows.
It’s not hard for people like us, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation in this forum. But “normal” people are going to struggle with getting Linux setup. And keep in mind, Linux is totally alien to people who have always used Windows.
Normal people should either buy a computer with Linux just like they would windows or Mac or google model of computer + Linux before buying.
Its weird to compare apples not only to oranges but to moldy oranges when this isn’t the actual user experience.
People who do continue to use Linux don’t just keep buying random hardware and hoping it works because they have search engines.
No onboarding process with randomly chosen hardware with hostile OEM is ever going to be good enough for people who are stupid lazy and cheap.
That’s great until the first time you want to plug in a peripheral
When I’m shopping for one I simply consider Linux support a requirement. Same as you don’t just buy Xbox games and hope that they work in your ps5.
Nobody gives a shit, you fucking nerd.
Almost certainly there alt. From post history they are an edgy ragebaiter
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