“Don’t buy based on future promises”.
Matrix promised a lot. So have almost every single ai techbro. If delta manages it then great, but if you’ve only done one thing on the list then you really haven’t proved anything.
Sorry if this sounds critical but is delta any better than the matrix protocol? It looks similar enough
Also side note I wish integrating all of these together was an option like prowlarr is for the *arr torrent stack
I just tried creating an account on Deltachat. The onboarding generates an account and password for you in the client, you can see them in the settings, but otherwise you don’t have to worry about it.
Quite better than Matrix, and the app is also more intuitive.
It looks similar enough
They are not the same usecase. Matrix tries to have large public groups with message histories similar to Discord where as Delta Chat is more like WhatsApp, covering mostly private conversations in 1:1 or small groups.
For chat alone they are right.
For real time communication (like calls), you need global data centers. Hyperscalers aren’t required but make it easier to deploy globally since you rely only on a single provider.
Why wouldn’t P2P work for real time comms?
Could this violate Signal’s security model?
Your country would be able to determine exactly with whom you’re speaking by nature of IP’s being public.
It’s arguably more difficult if there’s a server intermediary, especially when speaking to someone in a different country.
Unless things have changed, calls on signal between you and people on your contact list are p2p. This is necessary to have a call experience like what people are used to. The latency of going through a relay makes conversation more difficult. Yes that does mean that someone on the network can see that there is a signal call between the 2 ip addresses (but they wouldn’t know the identities of the users) https://signal.org/blog/signal-video-calls/
Ah, alright. Fair enough.
Though in that case my earlier assumption about AWS doesn’t hold true either.
Signal has the option to relay calls, but it is off by default.
they could at least use a european datacenter like infomaniak if they really had to use aws style infrastructure
distributing relay knowledge among chatters (TBD)
This is the core reason that centralization is currently necessary. So admitting that it’s an unsolved problem for a federated alternative is basically reinforcing Signal’s point.
Deltachat unfortunately doesn’t support any secure email login methods, which makes it of limited utility for a lot of cases.
You mean for businesses?
