JuniorsCrackDealer@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 1 month agoMaybe there was a cure for human cancer, but it didn't work at all in mice.message-squaremessage-square76linkfedilinkarrow-up1313arrow-down10
arrow-up1313arrow-down1message-squareMaybe there was a cure for human cancer, but it didn't work at all in mice.JuniorsCrackDealer@lemmy.world to Showerthoughts@lemmy.world · 1 month agomessage-square76linkfedilink
minus-squareAbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up148·edit-21 month agoIn the long run, using mice to test human medicines will result in selection pressure for humans whose physiology more and more closely resembles mice.
minus-squareozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up61·1 month agothey use a lot of other things… including living human cancer cells in a petri dish
minus-squareSlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up7·1 month agoMaybe the real cancer is the friends we made along the way
minus-squareSaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up4·1 month agoThe reality is that even if there was a magic bullet for cancer, all cancer, it would only extend lives a few years.
minus-squareozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·1 month agowell no, they kill cancer in petri dishes
minus-squareDevjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 month agoIt was a joke about selection pressure.
minus-squareBastingChemina@slrpnk.netlinkfedilinkarrow-up8·1 month agoI believe the vast majority of cultivated human cells are cancerous cells anyway. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks
minus-squareozymandias@lemmy.dbzer0.comlinkfedilinkarrow-up6·1 month agowhen researching cancer drugs, yeah
minus-squarevrighter@discuss.tchncs.delinkfedilinkarrow-up10·1 month agothey are widely known to be the smartest creatures on earth, followed by dolphins, and then us
minus-squareOldChicoAle@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·1 month agoThat’s not how evolution works though
minus-squareAbouBenAdhem@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up1·1 month agoAssuming that human phenotypic traits that correlate more closely with mouse traits have more-predictable outcomes with mouse-tested medicine, and more-predictable medical outcomes correlate with higher survival and reproductive rates, can’t you plug that straight into the Price equation?
minus-squareTechnotica@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·1 month agoNo! We will be crab! Everything becomes crab!
minus-squareSaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.calinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·edit-21 month agoMice live 9 months in the wild, and have a resting heart rate of 500-700 bpm. That’s a lot of cardio.
In the long run, using mice to test human medicines will result in selection pressure for humans whose physiology more and more closely resembles mice.
they use a lot of other things… including living human cancer cells in a petri dish
So we will become cancer
Maybe the real cancer is the friends we made along the way
The reality is that even if there was a magic bullet for cancer, all cancer, it would only extend lives a few years.
How does that work?
well no, they kill cancer in petri dishes
It was a joke about selection pressure.
I believe the vast majority of cultivated human cells are cancerous cells anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henrietta_Lacks
when researching cancer drugs, yeah
i love this idea let’s become mice
they are widely known to be the smartest creatures on earth, followed by dolphins, and then us
No, we will become monke
That’s not how evolution works though
Assuming that
human phenotypic traits that correlate more closely with mouse traits have more-predictable outcomes with mouse-tested medicine, and
more-predictable medical outcomes correlate with higher survival and reproductive rates,
can’t you plug that straight into the Price equation?
No! We will be crab! Everything becomes crab!
Mice live 9 months in the wild, and have a resting heart rate of 500-700 bpm. That’s a lot of cardio.