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As a European my autoreply does have a line saying
If it’s really important please contact info@companydomain
Depending on the judgement of the colleague reading the emails sent the I might get a call
This. It’s not forwarded automatically, it’s up to the sender to resend or wait until I’m back.
One place I worked, a senior exec has in his email signature words to the effect of…
I work odd hours so if you receive this email out of office hours, I do not expect a reply until you’re next in the office
Not from Europe but same, perhaps when I get back I will check your email
perhaps
I’m proud that I only have 76 unread emails at work. But I’m not going to bother reading them, and I’d feel guilty marking them as read.
I got up to 10,102 unread a while back before my friend begged me to mark them all as read
edit: to be fair Github spams me and my department doesn’t really email each other
edit 2: apparently I’m getting back up there with 494
Had a colleague with something similar, his philosophy was that if it’s important they’ll call him.
Yeah I’ve been living that way more than ever since work stopped allowing us to use email clients other than gmail’s web app. I used to get email notifications with thunderbird but now I check my email like once a week when I remember
The only emails I ever get really are Jira and Github updates along with meeting invites. The updates are fine but I’m already on top of those and then the meeting invites just show up in my calendar so I don’t really need the actual email for them
Just chuck them all into the trash folder.
This is the only correct way.
Credit: Sidney Harris
That cup rotation tho 👌
Hahaha this seems out of adhd memes, been in that situation
It’s kind of the same in Canada even if we have mandatory vacations. At some point could WFH and had about a month of vacation every year. I love bike touring and travelling in general, and one year I took about 10 weeks of vacation in total. My boss started to suggest that I could also bring my computer to other countries and work from there.
I must say it was tempting to continue earning money while being able to live in another country. I could have spent a few months in some places, instead of a week. But I wasn’t a fan of having schedules while “on vacation”. Also, more paperwork.
Much of the US doesn’t even have mandatory paid sick leave, let alone vacation.
EDIT: Americans do effectively get 12 weeks of unpaid leave, but only if they or a family member gets a “serious” illness. That only applies to businesses with more than 50 employees though (along with a few other caveats).
“Getting” unpaid leave is a misnomer. The employee isn’t getting anything and they employer isn’t giving anything.
It’s a right. It is the right to leave without the risk of the employment agreement being terminated over that specific leave.
The employer ought to be grateful if an employee wants to return after being required elsewhere for personal reasons for 12 weeks.
Lots of companies lump in PTO and sick time, so that’s sort of bullshit too.
What? I have 6 weeks and my wife 10 weeks of payed leave in the Netherlands. Nobody will expect anything of you in this time. Around childbirth you have 6 weeks as a partner, 3 months as a mom. All payed. Afterwards moms have about 3 months of payed leave, too. Then on top each partner has 3 months of payed parental leave that you can freely distribute over the first 8 years, your employer has basically no say in that. And oh yes, we have affordable public healthcare.
Just saying, in case you were considering…
In Texas, I had employers that counted use of sick leave against your attendance metrics, and would fire you if you used it more than 3 times in a given year.
In Canada you can get up to 16 months maternity leave. But the vacation is not as generous. I’m sitting at 3 weeks a year.
What you’re describing isn’t working on holiday but being a digital nomad, what your boss suggested. Friends of mine do it too. Go somewhere for 3 months, work from there. Usually in the same timezone or close to it and a cheap country so renting an airbnb isn’t too expensive. From The Netherlands there are many options. Friends of mine go to Portugal(-1), Brazil(-4), South Africa(+1), Turkey(+1), Egypt(+1), Montenegro(+0), or sailing on the Mediterranean.
ten weeks vacation is a pipe dream in the states.
By law the minimum is only two weeks though. My contract gave me four weeks of paid vacation after a few years of employment. The other six weeks were just out of my pocket. I wasn’t paid and just took this time off. And that’s when my employer started to suggest that I could, maybe, work from remote places.
My company allows working from any other country in europe for up to 3 months a year, countries outside of europe are fine too but you gotta do paperwork for those.
So a handful of colleagues travel to spain together each year and work from there for like a month. I haven’t gone with them yet, but it does seem like a pretty fun time. Apparently they found one specific vacation rental home that has a very good internet connection, and splitting the rent between them makes it pretty affordable.
A January 1st I was in Miami and there was a cellphone store open. On January 1st. Why?
Everyplace is basically open. I worked for a small bakery that really squeezed their work force into working holidays and overtime for little to no extra pay. I swear my checks reflected none of my “above and beyond” work
New year, new phone /s
Because someone moght want to buy a phone. Idk I have no issues with stores having good opening hours and days. Germany for example is ridiculous about having shit closed for Christian holidays and shit. I just think you need to have the workers there voluntary with double pay and other perks.
voluntary
And that’s exactly the problem. It’s impossible to be voluntary if you have a power imbalance between employer and employee. “Hey, I need you to work this weekend” “But is Jan 1st, I can’t.” …. “Hey, sorry I have to fire you, you’re not a team player” People need money, they will subject themselves to this kind of thing.
Not fucked up countries have laws against firing for such shit. You can absolutely have this as voluntary and even desirable for some. A lot of people I know happily work during certain holidays since they get double pay, it is a slower day and it’s not a holiday they care about. So easy money for them for what they consider almost a regular day.
It’s pretty ridiculous to force all businesses to close for some Christian holidays as a measure of worker protections instead of having some actual worker protections.
A lot of people I know happily work during certain holidays since they get double pay,
In the US it’s usually just time and a half
The US gets a raw deal when it comes to workers’ rights in general. In Germany the situation is much better but they cling to the Christian traditional holiday thing and sometimes explain it as a workers’ rights thing when it doesn’t at all need to be like that. Honestly it feels mostly just conservativism.
No one is forced to close, they prefer to close because no one want to go lmao
Uhh in some countries law requires shops to be closed on certain days… Situation like you describe is preferable to me, that’d be good
What countries?
Germany for one. Same used to be the case in Finland until they made it more sensible
I might be an American but when I am not at work do not try to contact me. I refuse to add any coworkers to my contacts unless I genuinely like you. But my bosses are a hard no, all unknown numbers are straight to voicemail. I will not deal with their bullshit on my precious time off, I’ll deal with you when I am supposed to.
This exactly. I don’t care what’s happening at work. If I’m not “at work” I’m not available for work at all in anyway.
I ‘work’ 9-5 and after-hours only if it benefits me. Just watched 3 colleagues bust their asses for a month to get a nice “at-a-boy” pat on the back, which will be forgotten the next time something bad happens
Funny, that’s almost the standard text my company uses for auto replys. It’s something like “your e-mail is not going to be forwarded and not going to be read until I return”.
That said, many employees read e-mails during their holidays, probably because they are curious.
OK but aside of the meme, what the hell is with the photo? Is it really some woman at the beach with a laptop over the water and a phone on one hand? Is this fake somehow, some kinda sketch or joke? Would someone really do something like that? I’m just trying to guess if someone be really that dumb, and the answer seems to always be, “yes someone is” but how do you get into that situation it’s not like she can use the laptop with the phone in use…
Debt slavery will do that
