I’ve seen the cryptagion fellow before, he is almost like a parody of tankie.
What’s up with lemmy “anarchists” being crypto-tankies?
They are always like “I don’t support putin, but … ugh … the GIA is responsible for [Ukrainians not wanting to be ruled by corrupt, authoritarian russians]”
What’s up with lemmy “anarchists” being crypto-tankies?
Lonely terminally online folks tend to shift their views to accommodate their online communities, and the main anarchist instance on Lemmy is all about welcoming
NazisRed Fash to their table.For many, then, it’s a small move to normalize the positions of Red Fash. After all, Red Fash Bot #304 talks with you about Linux and video games and hates “turbolibs”! Surely a few ‘problematic’ positions can be forgiven in light of that, or even justified…?
Inside Job said it best: “Libertarians are just anarchists in a suit and a tie!”
Most of the “anarchists” you see on Lemmy aren’t the British punk rocker “let’s build a functioning world for the people” anarchists. They’re the “there should be no rules so survival of the fittest can kill the unworthy” kind. And in a state-capitalist system, they mean the poors either need to start generating capital for the state, or starve to death.
Remember, these are the same people who say that China has no homeless people, and criticize the US for having for-profit prisons, while somehow glossing over that their economy is being held up by the “work” camps holding all of China’s “totally not homeless, we gave them a 6ft cube” population. Logic is already dead to these people.
And that’s why I describe myself as anti-authoritatian leftist instead. Calling myself an anarchist or a communist (especially here in Ukraine) is definitely going to get misinterpreted as this kind of bullshit even though it’s nothing but a false label.
being in community with people from post soviet states has drastically changed how i talk about my liberation politics. i used to call myself anarchocommunist and now i say anarchist. i’ve been a little stunned of late by some of dbzer0’s mods’ stance on analysis of leftist movements in eastern europe. i’ve known a lot of leftists in and from Ukraine, russia, Poland, Czechia, and Slovakia. none of them, and i mean none of them, speak well of the soviet era
Unlike the privileged Westerners glorifying the idea of something they’ve never known, chances are the people from Eastern Europe have heard stories from their grandparents about the horrors of the Soviet atrocities, or have seen the names of their great-grandparents on the plaques listing the victims of the regime.
it seems like there’s a certain kind of person who’s been so brainwashed by the systems of imperialism that they think oppression is a necessary function of human society. from this position, they decide that an imperial-capitalist regime that adopts the aesthetics of liberation must be better than overt fascism or neoliberal fascism because at least aesthetic communism as practiced by the soviet union or people’s republic of china implements a few more pieces of progressive reform than overt fascism or neoliberal fascism.
from that position they presume leftists who criticize aesthetic communism (which i consider to be one of the fascisms) must be anticommunist even if what we are is anti-authoritarian communists ((anti-authoritarian) (communist)). they will not listen to advice that soviet symbols turn off a lot of leftists across the world who see that symbol as the symbol of the soviet capital class. they’ll call us typical liberals if we do this even if our core beliefs are to work toward a hierarchiless, moneyless, stateless society
As rockerface mentioned, if you call yourself a communist in Ukraine, people will think you support russians.
Even the term leftist is largely discredited in Ukraine, even though most Ukrainians are generally supportive of leftists policies (albeit often in a non-political, somewhat vague manner).
I can’t take Cryptagion seriously after they went full aggro on somebody completely unprovoked and then got caught for committing vote manipulation through his alts. They’re the kind of person who’s always looking for a fight and is unpleasant to be around.
am curious as to the context, what are they replying to?
And 8 days later, no context. Weird, huh?
OBJECTIVELY
I dont think they’re wrong. I disagree with his intentions though. But under trump our country is failing on so many levels, while china has been fostering better ties and attempting to do no bad so they look good. I honestly feel like china is going to play the goodish guy while trump erodes our country to the point the rest of the world will look first to china before anyone else.
I mean we already lost Australia.
I mean we already lost Australia.
huh?
while china has been fostering better ties and attempting to do no bad
what
What? China is playing nice right now, would you not agree they are striving for the defacto number 1 spot on the world stage?
China is absolutely not ‘playing nice’ right now with other countries, even excluding the US-aligned bloc.
Although i have many criticisms of China, i think it is still far more economically progressive than the US. Them taking the climate goals seriously is just the icing in the cake
