• !Europe Mod Team@feddit.org
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    4 天前

    There’s been reports for this link to be an ad… we’re allowing it nonetheless because the discussion is very rich (I, personally agree with many of the criticism that were done: products may not be socially or environmentally friendly, or even it may be better to support an European artist). The EU parliament is more like a tool, and sometimes it does work well. Oftentimes it just makes decisions that are not aligned with our values as a community. Nonetheless, the EU flag is nowadays an important symbol that’s being undermined by bigots and propaganda. That’s why I’ve been ignoring the reports of this as an ad. I believe the underlying message to be more important. And, as I said, the discussion here has brought very good points that I wouldn’t have thought so just by myself.

    Best regards, anzo.

  • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 天前

    I feel like we shouldn’t copy the American flag waving and blind patriotism. I believe we’re much better off with a Federation of EU States than without it, and I see Schengen as a huge accomplishment, but the EU as an institution has many problems we shouldn’t be blind to.

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      Still, I think that what you often see in Europe is almost complete indifference to European identity, and there’s a huge amount of middle ground between that and the ludicrously excessive blind nationalism that you see in the USA. I personally think it would be a good thing if we embraced an identity as Europeans a little more. Being proud of European identity, and even waving a flag once in a while, isn’t a bad thing. Patriotism gives you something to fight for. A common identity is needed for people to achieve more collectively. The important thing is to not be blind or arrogant. You have to base that identity on reality, and work to make sure that identity stands for something good, rather than assuming it will automatically be so. Too much success and empire building causes rot to set in, but the EU is uniquely positioned to be a post-imperial entity. What comes after empire building is up to us.

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    Buy merch from your favourite artists/bands instead and be vocal about taxing the rich. Also stop using Instagram, TikTok, WhatsApp, et cetera. The EU Parliament has plenty of money, many artists do not, yet the latter have way more reach than wearing an EU t-shirt, and plenty of artists are vehemently against our whole corrupt system. E.g., Massive Attack, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, et cetera.

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      6 天前

      Unknown indie artists living in precarious financial situations like The Biggest Name in Trip Hop and The Biggest Name in Post-Rock.

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        6 天前

        While you made me laugh out loud, those belong to the “and…against our whole corrupt system” part of the sentence, not the “many artists do not have plenty of money”.

        Feel free to append the list ;)

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          5 天前

          Going to concerts of local/visiting artists is the best way of support, and the by a CD or something.

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            Definitely.

            Also, I stand corrected: the “e.g.” was preceded by a dot and capitalized, so my picks indeed seem silly haha. Those are two of my favourite artists so my choice was primed. 🙃

  • scrooge101@lemmy.ml
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    5 天前

    Show your support for European values by buying clothes made outside of Europe under horrible environmental and human conditions! (That’s my assumption since there is no info on the website)

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    6 天前

    its a private owned company (from Germany), Just getting this out to avoid confusion with any official shop/resource.

    nevertheless, great thought! possibly makes for a great Gift for Christmas top 😁

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      6 天前

      Pretty sure they’re “official”, as in a private company but directly contracted by and affiliated with the European parliament. Their physical location is even inside the parliament’s visitor centre.

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    5 天前

    Yeah no thx nationalism will definitely defeat the threat of nationalism.

    Probably this is just marketing by the people selling those shirts but ehhh

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    6 天前

    Were people in Europe wearing shirts with American flags before?

    I wouldn’t think so.

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      I have one, with a small flag. If it’s in the stores, you buy it without much thinking. People in my area also wear Canadian flags, Scottish flags or the Union Jack on their clothes. For example. They’re just quite recognizable. Simulacra in the Baudrillard sense, even.

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      There are also a lot of shirts being sold here in Europe that have names of states or cities printed on them (such as California, Los Angeles, New York, etc).

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    6 天前

    Or just stop buying clothes unless you really need it (hint, you don’t)

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    6 天前

    It’s about time to ditch American garish flag shagging and wear clothes that exemplify you for you, not overt nationalism.

    (is nationalism the right word for an extranational institution? whatever)