• ramble81@lemmy.zip
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    Quick question. Are you (that’s a general “you”) willing to support:

    • Converting to the Euro
    • Full open movement of any resident of the Schengen zone in to the UK

    If the answer to either one of those are no, then reintegration will not work as I can tell you that is most likely table stakes for rejoining.

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      Yeah people don’t get the kushty deal we where given initially. I personally would agree to both, but don’t see the general majority doing so. Especially with the right wing media spewing anti immigration rhetoric on a constant basis.

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      The Euro conversion is not a hard requirement - primarily because adopting the Euro has a bunch of requirements (the Maastricht criteria), which the UK wouldn’t pass at this time.

      Any new EU member would need to pledge that they will adopt the Euro once matching the criteria, but look at e.g. Denmark - they’ve been pending full Eurozone membership for over a decade, fit all the criteria, yet aren’t legally required to make the step to convert to Euro. And they have no special status or exemption.

      There’s also the final criteria of legal compatibility - which the UK wouldn’t have, purely due to the fact that the Sterling Pound is always to have the face of the reigning royal, and EU laws strictly prohibit putting faces of either dead or alive political leaders (even “politically neutral” people can be problematic, whose primary contributions were to sciences or art, which is why most Euro notes and coins have regional symbols like buildings).

      No, the main reason the UK won’t rejoin is because the twats in Parliament would not want a worse deal than prior to leaving - which gave the UK much more leeway than an average member, much more power, and honestly, is a good thing that such exceptionalism won’t be returned.

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      100 percent. I’m a British citizen but only by birth. Only lived here for a few years, but I’d be a hypocrite to say anyone else shouldn’t be able to.

      As for the Euro, more than happy to. I’d like to see the UK throw its full weight behind the Euro. Maybe we could see a new world reserve currency in my lifetime.

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      Yes and yes. We need to stand with our closest allies and that means not acting as if we’re somehow more special.

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      Depends how much campaigning the right has been doing to stir up hatred and dissent. Plenty of reasonable people are down with both of those criteria, but the tories and reform like to make these things scary to the poor gammons

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    Honestly what’s even the point of petitions anymore?

    More people were upset about the Online Safety Act and the government handled that petition - which was signed by over HALF A MILLION people, not a measly 10 thousand - with a “sorry not sorry, we ain’t gonna do that”.

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      They are intentionally useless, and frankly genius. They are designed to give the public a “voice” and always are completely ignored unless favoring policy anyways. It’s to stop people taking real action while they push though anti demonstration laws