Epistemic status: Speculation. An unholy union of evo psych, introspection, random stuff I happen to observe & hear about, and thinking. Done on a highly charged topic. Caveat emptor!

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  • @Amoeba_Girl
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    2911 months ago

    But… I mean, think of a bakery of all (straight) men.

    Then think of the same bakery, but it’s all (straight) women.

    Then imagine the same bakery, but it’s mixed sex.

    Can you see what happens?

    no, not really. bakeries you say?

    Even if there’s no attraction going on in the last case, the fact that there could be dramatically changes the unspoken dynamics. It’s just not as stable as the other two.

    Things like… if a man notices a female coworker struggling with a flour sifter, and he comes in one day with a device he purchased to help her out… it raises questions that just wouldn’t have arisen if the two coworkers had been the same sex.

    oh. ok. flour sifters, man, yeah, those things are crazy.

    • @blakestaceyMA
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      2111 months ago

      I just can’t get over the “struggling with a flour sifter” bit. Like … what’s there to struggle with? What accessory would help a person locked in combat with a flour sifter? Another flour sifter, to intimidate the first with the knowledge that it can be replaced?

    • @froztbyte
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      1611 months ago

      “with a device he purchased to help her out” is such an extremely load bearing sentence in there

      The whole goddamn example is batshit, but that one really did it for me

      It continues to amaze me these people are real

      • @200fifty
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        1411 months ago

        I’m picturing some kind of flour-sifting Juicero-type smart device

        • @mosiacmango@lemm.ee
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          111 months ago

          Its $700, looks like it was engineered by NASA and does the same amount of work as squeezing your hand?

      • @selfMA
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        1311 months ago

        also, if you do this in a bakery you’ll probably get written up for violating food service regulations cause you brought in a random consumer-grade prep item that could’ve easily contaminated everything with bacteria or allergens. plus if you procure the item through work, everyone gets to use it instead of just you and the coworker you’re trying to fuck on top of a birthday cake???

        but “I got written up for an obvious health code violation” hits a lot different from “woe is men, everything is sexual harassment now”

        • @froztbyte
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          1711 months ago

          whenever I hear the “everything is sexual harassment now” from some of these fuckers I think of the joke:

          “what’s wrong?,” asks the doctor.

          “something bad - everything hurts” says the patient

          “show me”

          the patient touches their finger against their thigh, their foot, their neck, and their forehead - evidently wincing with every time

          “…you have a broken finger” says the doctor

    • @sc_griffith
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      1511 months ago

      felt like it started off relatively normal, gradually got weirder and more reactionary, and then the bakery bit was where it was clear this dude is from another planet. imagine a bakery… but with both men and women in it. imagine the roiling, all consuming sexual tension. fuck! we can’t handle this

      • Mike Knell
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        1211 months ago

        @sc_griffith It’s true. The bakery just down the road has both male and female staff and it’s really pretty inconvenient that every time I go in I have to ask if they’d mind taking a quick break from the constant fucking in order to serve me. And don’t mention the time I asked if they had “a couple of nice floury baps for me”.

        • @blakestaceyMA
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          1611 months ago

          Wouldn’t a Hallmark movie be about a young woman from the big city who finds love and fulfillment when she has to return to her small hometown and manage the local bakery, including the wacky antics of its mixed-sex staff?

            • @sc_griffith
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              11 months ago

              “Hey,” Blakeston said, “thought you could use a hand.” Rachel looked up from the flour sifter and her eyes widened. Blakeston was holding a large, complicated looking assemblage of tubes, with fans over one end. Could it be…

              “You have a flour sifting accessory?” Rachel asked, her voice stunned. “Those are impossible to find!”

              “I know,” Blakeston said, “it took weeks to find this one and another few weeks to fix it up. I just couldn’t see you struggling with the old flour sifter day after day. Here, I’ll set it up.” Rachel moved aside and Blakeston stepped in, straining as he pushed the assemblage into her flour sifter. His strong muscles glistened under the skin of his forearms. How have I never noticed that before? Rachel thought.

              Blakeston stood up, assemblage complete, and turned the crank once - just once. The fans whirred, the tubes rattled, and just like that, the flour was sifted.

                • @selfMA
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                  1511 months ago

                  I’m only here for the love triangle episodes with the gruff but lovable bakery owner portrayed by Nathan Fillion who’s not yet over the heartbreak of his wife’s passing (crushed by unsifted flour) but I can fix him

                • @sc_griffith
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                  11 months ago

                  As Rachel unlocked the door to Chez Mixte the next day, she felt something different. At first, she couldn’t figure out what. Everything that had appeared antiquated and unsophisticated now had a special glow. She had once looked at pastries like Blake’s orteils de gopher, which had been setting overnight, and thought them no better than animal crackers. Now, they seemed full of animal passion.

                  For the first time, she picked one up and bit into it. Flaky, and Blake’s cream tasted so good on her tongue. Sweet, but not too sweet. A thought popped into her head. Blake had started posting gym selfies five weeks ago. That was about when he had started looking for a flour sifting accessory. Had he been trying to… impress her?

      • Jonathan Hendry
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        911 months ago

        @sc_griffith @Amoeba_Girl

        I don’t know, I worked at a Dunkin’ Donuts when they still did baking in store, and there were male and female employees. I’m not saying there was NO fucking going on, but I wasn’t lucky enough to witness any let alone participate.

      • @swlabr
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        711 months ago

        Sexual tension in a bakery was a plotline in season 1 of tuca and bertie.

    • @swlabr
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      1311 months ago

      This has major “because of the implication” energy.

    • @selfMA
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      1011 months ago

      wait… does this chud think bakeries are gendered?

      • @froztbyte
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        1111 months ago

        nytpitchbot: first we had breadtube, now this wingnut thought leader wants to make people aware of breadsexuals

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      711 months ago

      Dude had to specify everyone was straight to get this because yeah in the real world anyone could be attracted to anyone and yeah. Make everyone gay and the situation reverses.

      • @Amoeba_Girl
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        1011 months ago

        it is well known that interpersonal conflict only happens between potential partners. and in bakeries.

    • DessertStorms
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      711 months ago

      I was not clicking op, this is the kind of comments I came for, you made me actually lol, thanks! 😂

      Also, is there a /MenAndFemales yet? 🤔

  • @200fifty
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    11 months ago

    Feel like the very beginning of this is not completely crazy (I’ve also thought in the past that straight people often perform “attractiveness” more for the approval of their same-sex friends) but it seems to kind of jump off the evo-psych deep end after that, lol

    Also you can’t build a bunch of assumptions about “we should organize society this way” while ignoring the existence of LGBT people, and then go “yeah I know I ignored them but it simplified my analysis.” Like yeah it simplifies the analysis to ignore a bunch of stuff that actually exists in reality, but… then that means maybe your conclusions about how to structure society are wrong??

    edit: also this quote is choice:

    I don’t know if this really happens. But even if not, the fiction does a great job of highlighting the dynamic I’m thinking of.

  • @thesmokingman@programming.dev
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    2411 months ago

    I’m not convinced this person has had any kind of social interaction beyond making purchases in years. I’m equally convinced this person has lived infinite lives in their head with every female service that made the mistake of smiling.

    I recognize I’ve been very cis/hetero normative here. I liken this to removing friction from physics. There’s no such thing as actually frictionless physics in the real world (as far as I know)… but friction is derived from principles that are easier to see from the imagined frictionless case.

    Okay so in order to explain how the world works you have to remove gay people because the principles are only visible if you remove gay people. Or if you have gay people this whole theory seems like a house of cards?

    • @Amoeba_Girl
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      1211 months ago

      Imagine how efficient our romantic entanglements would be if we got rid of all the homosexuals

    • @bitofhope
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      1211 months ago

      infinite lives in their head with every female service that made the mistake of smiling

      The basilisk is real!

  • @Soyweiser
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    11 months ago

    Men will literally write a 17 minute article before asking women ‘hey how can I become more attractive’

    And I’m adamantly against pretending real things aren’t real. I think that’s actually more fundamentally toxic than is homophobia, transphobia, etc.

    Euh, well at least all the red flags will attract tankies.

  • @blakestaceyMA
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    1811 months ago

    Makery: The bakery … for straight men! Now with scones in monster truck and shark testosterone flavors! GRAAARRR

    • @swlabr
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      911 months ago

      Instead of bear claws they have actual bear claws

    • @blakestaceyMA
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      1411 months ago

      First woks, now flour sifters? What is the man’s obsession with kitchen implements?!!!

      • tabris
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        611 months ago

        He’s been stuck inside since lockdown, with only cooking and his confusion about women as his companions.

      • @200fifty
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        511 months ago

        The economic incentive is coming from the popularity of stir-fry.

    • AcausalRobotGod
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      611 months ago

      Jesus Christ, without looking at who was writing it I presumed it was just some random edgelord.

      • David GerardOPMA
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        511 months ago

        it is, just one who was in the right place at the right time

  • @Amoeba_Girl
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    1211 months ago

    Two lines into his little disclaimer and I already knew this guy was a god damn occultist

    • @GorillasAreForEating
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      11 months ago

      What tipped you off? The phrase “unholy union”?

      Anyways the occultism stuff is pretty common among “post-rats”.

      • @Amoeba_Girl
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        11 months ago

        Yes, and the whole phrasing, combined with the theme and title, typical semantic field of the socalled “schizoposter” (abhorrent euphemism for “bit of a weird nazi”)

  • David GerardOPMA
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    1011 months ago

    a monkey trying to fuck a football, written equivalent

  • @swlabr
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    811 months ago

    I’m too sick to read all that. Can the chuds pause their chudding for a bit so I can sneer later? Thanks

    • David GerardOPMA
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      1711 months ago

      Heard a joke once: Man goes to doctor. Says he’s cheerful. Says life is enjoyable and pleasant. Says he feels just fine in an unthreatening world. Doctor says, “Treatment is simple. The great clown Sneerclub is in town tonight. Go see him. That should fuck you up.” Man bursts into tears. Says, “But doctor… I am the Torment Nexus.” Good joke.