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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago

Trump Says Biden Autopen Actions Are Illegal, Calls For Arrests

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Trump Says Biden Autopen Actions Are Illegal, Calls For Arrests

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Lee Duna@lemmy.nz to News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 2 months ago
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President Donald Trump says autopen-signed actions under Joe Biden were illegal and calls for arrests in a Truth Social post on January 17.
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  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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    I thought the POTUS couldn’t break the law? Or does that go out the window once they’re not sitting? Does Trump really want to set THAT precedent?

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      When the president does it, that means that it is not illegal.

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        Obviously not retroactive to before Trump!

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          Or after… or in-between trump 1 and 2.

      • santa@sh.itjust.works
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        I believe Nixon had said that.

        • frongt@lemmy.zip
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          Yup. And at that time, we never found out if it was true or not. Since then, Republicans have been tirelessly working to ensure it is. And now we see the fruits of their labor: a Republican president as king.

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            Often I imagine had Carter elected to move on a Nixon conviction if we would be where we are now. I don’t think we would. Holding power to account doesn’t seem to be an American or Democratic thing to do. When it is, I believe we may have more geopolitical standing in accountability and Democracy. Until we walk the talk we seem to be a cesspool of quacking ducks.

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              Jimmy Carter pardoned Nixon because Carter was the bigger person and he believed that forgiveness is the most powerful act one can perform against their attacker.

              What Carter forgot was, he’s supposed to represent the people who voted for him, and the voters weren’t, and didn’t care to be, the bigger person; they wanted accountability and didn’t place such abstract values on the act of forgiveness.

              It was a good personal decision to make, but as a presidential decision, I find it lacking.

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                Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon which may have been one of the reasons Ford lost to Carter the next election.

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    Trump, the Supreme Court said otherwise regarding the presidency to save your ass, you fucking dipshit.

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    Trump is a pedophile.

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    …says the guy who doesn’t even know what half the people he’s pardoned were even in prison for.

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    white house breaks the law daily… can we get some arrests there?

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    Trump used an autopen all the time in his first failure of a presidency.

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      And a few this time and the only reason he knew is because it was called to his attention.

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    Trump is a mentally ill pedophile.

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    One month past the Epstein files release date. Still finding media disctractions.

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    A precedent was set in 2005 that stated the president “need not personally perform the physical act of affixing his signature to a bill” and may direct a subordinate to use an autopen, as long as the president has approved and decided to sign it

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      Horrible people can say the write thing. While this is not a law, making it illegal would be a good idea.

      Unfortunately that will never happen.

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    We need to arrest that 80 year old cancer patient because he did things every president before him has done for 50 years, and more importantly , the current moron in chief CURRENTLY STILL DOES. Every accusation is a confession.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/justice-department-quietly-replaced-identical-trump-signatures-on-recent-pardons

    • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world
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      Robotic autopens have been around for 90+ years. Even Thomas Jefferson used a mechanical signature-duplicating contraption called a polygraph. It was not automated or even electric, but it allowed one to sign two pages at once. That was well over 200 years ago.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopen

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      in fairness we’ve had a lot of shitty presidents do a lot of shitty things over the past 50 years.

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    If biden get arrested. Trump would be next

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      Lol sure thing

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      The Nazis losing round one doesn’t guarantee they’ll lose round two. I worry they’ve learned from their mistakes while the opposition hasn’t.

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    Autopen his ass. Sue every still living president and their staff then. This guy is an imbecile.

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    He is only concerned over illegal actions by Democrats, the poors, and brown people. Everyone else gets congratulations.

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      Made up illegal actions.

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      Heck for a good contribution you get a pardon too. Can even not be white for the right amount. Only people he says one nice thing about are people who’ve fluffed him up. If you’ve said no once to him you’re on his shit list.

      Awesome leader there United States, hah he’s a LINO anyways, leader in name only. It’s really president Miller, the guy who got into politics cause he’s too weak to strangle prostitutes.

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      It’s not an illegal action.

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    What law was broken? The Trump Doesn’t Like It law?

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      deleted by creator

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      That’s the most important law of them all.

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    This moron also uses the auto pen

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      No way. He signs every pair of shoes and cellphone he sells which is why he works 500 hours a week.

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      Auto sharpie

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