Well kiss any sense of getting a new GPU or Processor good bye.

Fuck AI.

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    On the upside, the evaporation of availability for high-end consumer hardware might lead to a renaissance in more reasonable hardware requirements for software. There’s a lot of stuff we managed to do 20 or 30 years ago without anywhere near as much overhead. The indie gaming market already shows there’s plenty of room for companies to work with more modest overhead.

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      That’s a fair point. I feel that PC gaming was in a peak of consumerism with ridiculous prices and never ending “upgrades” so it’ll be interesting to see if anything changes. I hope it does and some of that knowledge/skill and enthusiasm for optimisation comes back.

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        A certain amount of this seems to be happening anyway just because the culture at AAA studios is so inimical to gaming in general. Looking at a game like Peak, I don’t see any indication that the devs went out of their way to reduce hardware requirements, but it’s less intensive than major releases anyway. Companies not having the resources to spend years working on super detailed massive environments may end up working in their favor.

        Honestly, I think something like Peak ends up feeling more intentional and well executed than something like Cyberpunk 2077. Peak’s jank feels like it’s just part of how the game is supposed to be, whereas Cyberpunk they put so much effort into some aspects that it’s weird and jarring when you run into those things that break verisimilitude. But if Cyberpunk looked like it was designed by an indie dev with good enough but not state of the art graphics? I probably wouldn’t notice some of the issues as much. Also I feel like there wouldn’t be as much corporate involvement leading to the kind of hand-holding that shows up in Phantom Liberty.

        This is headed toward devolving into me complaining about feeling like I’m not in half the scenes that revolve around Idris Elba rather than V, but you get the point!

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          I love your comment not only because it makes a lot of sense, but also because it taught me the words “inimical” and “verisimilitude.” Thank you.

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      Isn’t Microsoft stabbing itself in the foot? 11 is so bad it’s bogging down regular machines available before this nonsense

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          I don’t find that. I had to upgrade our corporate machine to best on market work station to run 11 properly and its still chugs. It’s also noticeable slower with apps, a downwars trend from 7 to 10 and now 11.

          One thing that totally freezes it for too long is office auto installs ai.exe and aimgr.DLL in some deep folder place. If I delete them the system is somewhat better, but updates put them back

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            Define “best on the market work station”. I’ve used 11 on a 10th gen ulv i5 laptop and it ran just fine, no worse than with 10 on it.

            From the minor direct X improvements, all the way to actually supporting hybrid CPU architectures and 6ghz there’s a lot of ways 11 performs better.

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              At the time of purchase it was latest Ultra9 CPU with 22 cores, 64 gig RAM , nvidie RTX3000, nvme drives. Still sluggish with windows.

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                What in the world is “sluggish” on that computer that woouldn’t be on 10? The new bloated notepad? That doesn’t even take a quarter of a second to load on my current laptop?

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                  Everything. Especially file explorer updates when changing folders. If I boot Linux it runs great

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      You don’t even have to do any serious things, even mobile phones can render any type of game today, no sweat (rare exceptions excluded).

      Source: squeezed speed with dark magic for games twenty years ago. Non copying scroller lightspeed ftw!

      Fun times.

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    Imagine if the bubble pops and simply all these companies go bankrupt (because the shares are all tied by these mega deals), will there be ANY computing means available?

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      Come on, you know damn well that if the bubble pops, the global taxpayers will be bailing them and the rest of the affected companies out with direct payments just like the last global crash caused by corporations.

      Executive bonuses and buy backs for corporations and austerity for the working man who just wants to play a video game is always the plan.

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        “Too big to fail” translates to “we can’t have this fail” so we will bail them out when it starts to.

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      Open-source tech co-ops buy up the production capacity and flood the consumer market with cheap GPUs and RAM?

      We can dream, at least…

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      Come on, they never were. They’re just another company with no ethics other “make all the money, consumers be damned” and always have been.

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    Gonna be a rough few years for PC gaming. Or any gaming, for that matter.

    But hey, at least we’ll keep killing jobs and the AI cat videos will continue to flow

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    Whales are always the most dangerous customer for a company to have. Because once a customer becomes a whale, they can dictate terms under threat of leaving. Or they can create massive secondary damage by their own failing.

    Which is why I strongly suspect that many companies will become bankrupt once this AI bubble bursts - and not small ones, either. No, I fully expect nVidia to go into full Chapter 11 and lose 90+% of its value, requiring trillions in bailout in order to “save”.

    Anyone who knows anything about boom-bust cycles will be escaping this bubble like rats from a ship.

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        Normal people can somewhat cushion themselves from any severe crash.

        Debt itself is not the problem. Lots of debt is actually fine - inflationary effects can and will whittle that debt away, assuming you are still servicing it.

        No, the real issue comes down to single-family homes on arable land. If your home is debt-free and completely paid off, there is no legal way to take that away from you, and the land it sits on can allow you to grow food for yourself and even sell a little on the side. While a severe economic crash will be painful for most anyone not of the Parasite Class, those who have debt-free arable land have a chance to ride out that crash better than most.

        Granted, the devil is in the details, but in broad strokes this is a truism. The difference is between virtual or physical assets that depend on appreciation, and those who can work for you.

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          there is no legal way to take that away from you

          Hate to burst your bubble here, but there are two major ways to take people’s paid-off homes that I can think of just off the top of my head.

          1. Unpaid property taxes can force a foreclosure

          2. In all US states except Florida your home can be forced to be sold in order to satisfy a debt (like medical debt for example)

          There are other ways you can lose your paid-off home as well:

          1. It is destroyed in a natural disaster in a place where it is difficult or impossible to get insurnace (Florida/California etc) and you can’t afford to rebuild

          2. You need expensive end-of-life care and you have to sell your home to pay for that

          I’m sure there are a few others

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      Nvidia will likely lose a huge chunk of their share price, but I don’t see them going bankrupt because selling GPUs is still so profitable. If they can’t sell to AI companies there are plenty of other people lining up to buy them.

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    AMD, You were the Chosen One! It was said that you would destroy the cryptominers, not join them! Bring balance to the video card market, not leave it in darkness!

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    Saving me the legwork to not have to figure out which company is dead to me for treating its regular consumers like trash. I hope every one of these companies crash and burn in spectacular fashion. Never forget

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    They don’t want us to own our own hardware. We already don’t own (most) of our software or operating systems, even.

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    Honestly, if the AI craze hadn’t bought off all the basic components needed for consumer PC builds, I’d probably object, but as it is, the market for consumers is being so starved that they could not survive on sales to them alone.