• tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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    Establishment Dems: “We want our guys who follow our corporate rules at the top or we will spend money against you.”

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      The answer is it isn’t a Democratic primary. Some states have jungle primaries where all candidates of either party run and the top 2 move to the general. California is one such state.

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          Honestly I agree with one addendum: there needs to be approval voting or at least STAR/RCV for the primary, and this is one of those situations that proves it. That two people who’ll get all of maybe 40% combined (more likely 35%) may advance to the general while those that made up the 60% won’t is absurd and absolutely worse than just having two separate partisan primaries.

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      Different states have different rules on who can run in a primary, with some states being very lax and letting anyone who can run no matter party affiliation. Also, in some states, people can vote in any party regardless of party affiliation.

      This was done as several states recognized that the two party system didn’t always produce the best candidate. Instead of creating systems allowing for more parties, these states created systems that weakened the power of that state’s or the counties’ political parties.

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        Also, in some states, people can vote in any party regardless of party affiliation.

        What does this mean? It sounds like you’re saying there are some (other) states where you do have to vote with whatever party you’re affiliated with. But that wouldn’t make sense with anonymous voting or, you know, democracy.

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          In party primaries, which are used to some states, the election of the party’s candidate in some states is a public election where anyone can vote, even people from other parties. Dove states require you to auto register for that party, but not all of them.

          So your party’s candidate gets chosen by everyone, not just members of your party.

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      through brazen bribes from zionists across the entire US government, and much of the christian church as well.

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    I never liked open primaries. The whole point of a party primary is to out one candidate forward. In the open primary, you don’t do that. Now the party has to ask the candidates nicely to try not to split the vote 100 ways.

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      Open primaries work better in small local elections. My county made positions non-partisan so there is an open primary, and the top two candidates go to a runoff. It was able to break the Republicans horrific stranglehold on local politics and let cooler heads shine through, because with party affiliations involved whoever had the ® always wins by default.

      Statewide with political affiliations still involved though, seems like a clusterfuck with so many vote splitters involved.

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    California Democratic party officials can go eff themselves while they sit down and shut up. They should stay out of trying to manipulate the primary system if they know whats good for them. Voters are sick of that shit.

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        I want the dems to allow a legitimate open primary and win back the parts of the base that no longer trust them at all. Look at you selling out before the primary even starts. Why are you tryong to lock people in now? I hope you are getting well paid for what you’re doing here.

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    So can we all just agree to form a party that simply will not aid and abet America becoming a Fascist state? Pretty easy message to stay firm on.