• mrnobody@reddthat.com
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    How is this not a violation of GDPR?! “Homeland Security” doesn’t need the data, this is thousands of people for under 5 possible threats at most… this is fucking stupid! The game of bribery and backdoor deals of monetizing data keeps spreading, huh?

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      The only thing that makes the EU bureaucracy seem like it’s functional are competing national interests. When all nations are being targeted by foreign automated propaganda through their social networks to promote shifts in their governments to allow this sort of bull, it doesn’t even matter that the US is directly issuing threats against the EU, only just what corrupt long time career politicians can get out of it.

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        It’s not just foreign. Internal capitalists also wish to destabilize nation states. There’s a popular fad among the global bourgeois to believe that humanity should be sliced into corporate fiefdoms with zero state control. There’s another popular bourgeois fad which is to believe that humanity’s population must be brought radically lower to reduce the risk to themselves from large numbers of people angry at being dispossessed by climate change and AI.

        These two fads combined are personified in people like Trump, Musk, Bezos, Thiel, Zuckerberg, etc, and they are extremely dangerous to our species.

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        yo WTF

        all nations are being targeted by foreign automated propaganda through their social networks to promote shifts in their governments

        Did we win WWII? Did we lead tech for years and years? WHAT HAPPENED? Why USA so friggin exposed to social media equivalent of script kiddies (no, worse/dumber). Like SERIOUSLY we still have some of the best bombs and while we were spending billions developing those WE IGNORED THE FUCKING INTERNET?!

        (Yes I would work to make this better, have some small skills here, but don’t understand how we missed an INTERNET sized risk)

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          Surveillance capitalism will continue the fascist takeover until the whole planet is a totalitarian company town and we are all slaves to big brother; paying a daily subscription to breathe.

          I’m not even joking.

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        Uh? It’s a bit less generic than that… some activities of governments are excluded from the scope but not all data processing from government agencies are.

        For example this particular personal data processing likely fits under the prevention of criminal offences and threats to public security and is highly unfortunate but let’s keep shit factual.

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    Ugh… Time and time again we are shown that US corporate shareholder needs dictate massive invasion of privacy and global over reach. Well this won’t stand in Europe! Let’s see what the EU says about this… Oh. Oh wait 😲.

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    Why? What could the EU gain by giving personal data of its citizens to a country that illegally eavesdrops on them?

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      Not sure if your serious or joking about what you know but countries have laws about spying on their own people but not as much non citizens and foreign locations. They don’t have laws about not sharing information about their citizens from a foreign government. So these kind of things allow them to bypass their internal privacy laws.

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    Europeans who recently have been criticizing US citizens for how they voted: “Et tu de baddie?”

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    Come on French, where’s the riots in the streets? Do you really want the USA deciding which memes will get you put into the memes camps?

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    People need to read.

    "For Europe, the negotiations are significant because they sit at the intersection of EU-level authority over data protection and border policy and member states’ control over their own national biometric databases.

    After internal debate, the EU moved in 2024 and 2025 toward a collective approach, with the Council authorizing negotiation of an EU-level framework agreement in December 2025.

    That framework would establish the legal conditions for transfers to DHS, while individual member states would later conclude implementing arrangements identifying the databases involved and setting the operational terms.

    The negotiations are also exposing the main fault lines that could determine whether a final deal is possible.

    European officials want strict limits on bulk or routine data collection, meaningful human oversight of decisions with adverse effects, restrictions on the handling of sensitive personal data, tight controls on onward transfers to third countries, and some form of effective remedy for individuals whose data is misused.

    The EU also wants reciprocity, meaning member states’ authorities would be able to query corresponding U.S. databases rather than simply supplying data to Washington.

    Those demands may prove difficult to reconcile with DHS’s broader vision for routine biometric screening tied to border encounters and related immigration or law enforcement matters.

    Tensions also remain over how long transferred data could be retained, whether the agreement would cover only targeted border checks or something closer to systematic screening, and what kind of legal redress Europeans could realistically obtain under U.S. law.

    Even so, both sides appear motivated by the same broad objective of tighter border control, which has made this one of the more consequential transatlantic data negotiations now underway.

    If concluded, the agreement would mark a major expansion of U.S.-EU cooperation on biometric information sharing and could become a model for future border security arrangements.

    But it will also test whether Washington and Brussels can strike a deal that satisfies Europe’s legal standards on privacy and proportionality while still delivering the operational access DHS wants."

    Nothing has been signed.

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    WTF?! I wouldn’t trust the US to look after my lunch currently, let alone personal biometric data. You know this will wind up in Palantir’s grubby hands, with declared intentions to use it for evil. This absolutely should NOT happen.

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    Hey Euros! Don’t visit America or you will get sent to ICE gulag if you made an off hand internet comment about Trump 8 years ago describing that his dick is small.

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      And what happens if you only mentioned its mushroom shape, without mentioning his small hands?

      Asking for a friend btw!!

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    They have a long way to go and the demands the EU is making will probably not be met by the US anyway so this will probably never happen, let alone in this current timeline.