• ManixT@lemmy.world
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    The fact you think china is pursuing peaceful unification kind of outs you. They are not giving Taiwan a choice; comply or face death.

    Also I want all nations to behave better, especially Israel and the US right now. I don’t generally think China is bad and the people certainly are not, but bad actions should be called out and criticized regardless of who you are. That’s how we become better people.

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      Israel: does a genocide

      China: flies a plane near a country they’ve been at war with for over 70 years

      Liberals: “hmm yes these seem about the same to me”

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        Who said anything about being the same? Israel is the worst offender in the world.

        China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they’re certainly putting together a backup plan in case Taiwan doesn’t agree to become part of China. Doesn’t seem like they’d need that sort of thing if they were being truly peaceful.

        It’s also things like your analysis being “flies a plane near a country” that is a sign you aren’t being adequately critical of china and I question your seriousness and reasons.

        I mean, seriously, look at this map and tell me how you consider this “peaceful”:

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          China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan, so they’re certainly putting together a backup plan

          Yes, a backup plan for a potential case of Taiwan being used as a static US aircraft carrier against it in a war. You remember that they’re still at war, right? No peace treaty was ever signed between the KMT and the CPC.

          Look at your own source:

          Shortly after U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s arrival in Taipei, China announced plans to hold live-fire drills

          It’s almost as if the drills are a response to something other than just Taipei not yet being willing to re-unify.

          I also note that the bright red symbols on the mark connote a sense of urgency and yet this is from 2022. Obviously the invasion must be happening any day now…

          The map also references other drills from 1995-1996 which I note are denoted as “Third Taiwan Strait Crisis”… If they were at 3 crises by 1996, I can’t imagine how many crises we’ve had since, considering liberals have been unable to shut the fuck up about this for decades.

          Please, calm down, you are being reactionary.

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          China is planning for an invasion of Taiwan,

          Yeah, they’ve been planning to invade next week for decades now…

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            I mean, they literally are planning for an invasion. Whether they will is up for debate, but they’re definitely designing their naval fleet for it and performing exercises simulationing an invasion.

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        Maybe ALL imperialism is bad.*

        Fucking first worlders, they don’t seem to understand that countries want to be left alone seemingly.

        edt: I said the wrong word.

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          Maybe ALL imperialism is war.

          That isn’t even true. Imperialism is often spread through soft power. I thought that was the entire point you were making, that China was exerting soft power in an imperialist manner… if China invades Taiwan, I will be right there with you, calling it out, but history has shown that the CPC is quite restrained, and I see no reason for them to change their approach.

          Maybe ALL imperialism is bad.*

          Well yeah obviously, no maybes about that. I am not supporting Chinese imperialism in any way. My point is that the US imperialism is unbelievably bad and much worse, and yet people here just can’t accept that very reasonable critique without getting bent out of shape accusing me of all kinds of shit, including that I am a tankie. Y’all need to recognize the mainstream narrative is told to you by the exact same media that have been lying to us all along to push US imperialism. The media is owned by the ruling class. Please stop being so short sighted.