And I don’t blame them one bit.

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    As far as I’m concerned, anyone who travels from Europe is a complete idiot. I’m thinking about including the teams in that definition too.

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              Tbh it’ll all depend on the colour of your skin. If you’re white it will probably be ok. Anything else will mark you for arrest and/or deportation.

              Please be safe.

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                White, straight-presenting, not obviously something other than christian, and are doing a very standard business trip or holiday trip: you’re probably ok.

                Anything else and the risk goes up. Even something like taking a trip that starts in Seattle, goes up to Vancouver and then comes back via Canadian flights might be suspicious enough to cause problems.

                Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine. Even the ones who are non-white, or are obviously muslim or something. But, I’m positive that with the thousands of people making the trip, there will be tens, maybe hundreds who the Palantir AI and/or racist ICE identify as suspicious, and they will be hit with real trouble.

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                  Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine. Even the ones who are non-white, or are obviously muslim or something.

                  I have 2 muslim friends who travel to the US at least once a month for business. Obvious visible minorities, obvious muslims.

                  I cant fathom how they have the confidence to do this but anecdotally, they’ve never had an issue. It’s definitely one of those, high damage, low probability things in terms of risk management.

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                  Probably 99% of the people who go to the World Cup will be fine.

                  Brazil has a huge Football (USA Soccer) scene and makes up a large percentage of World Cup tourism. Being dark-skinned Hispanics, they are exactly who ICE targets.

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                    Yep. They’re also typically loud and expressive, not quiet and submissive. So, if they encounter ICE they’re not likely to just play nice and deescalate.

                    I can’t imagine this World Cup happening without at least a dozen Brazilians disappearing into ICE detention.

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        IMO the Qatar one was safer. Qatar is a country that wants to be seen as a tourist destination. I’m sure there was a concerted effort to look as good as possible during the world cup. I imagine that during the World Cup the police were instructed to be even more lenient towards tourists breaking the rules because they knew that there was a ton of media in the country, and they wanted that media to tell a story that Qatar was a great place to visit, to live, or to set up a company.

        The Trump admin cares a lot more about satisfying their base when it comes to cracking down on “immigrants” than it cares about tourism. Tourists are definitely still a valid target.