I am not straight, nor do I have siblings. Rationally I don’t really see why there would be an issue with siblings having sex recreationally without producing children, which wouldn’t even be an issue with step siblings. With step parents the age difference might also be acceptable. Edit: not really, since the age difference between the parent and step parent would then likely be an issue. Also I intentionally did not exclude the possibility that it could be an issue. But the other power dynamics associated with step parents are obviously not negligible
Someone recently posted a Wikipedia link to an effect where people growing up together don’t feel sexual attraction to each other, which is the primary reason why I assume it is a taboo (I used to think it was because of the negative health effects for incestuous children), but so long as all involved parties consent I see no issue.
Wait, why exactly? I can see it being a problem in some cases but I wouldn’t assume that it is generally a problem. The way I see it it is just two people who are loved ones of a common other (which is not uncommon in polyamorous relationships as far as I know) and the power dynamics would be dependent on those relationships, of which I would assume there is no inherently more powerful one.
The acceptable age ranges do imply something icky between the parent and step parent though.
I should also note that I have not had step parents or children at any point in my life so far and may be unaware of otherwise obvious things.
It’s the power dynamics. A step-parent is in a position of greater power than the child of their partner. It is incredibly unethical to use that position to persuade a younger person to have sex with them.
I most certainly was not trying to insinuate that. I was wondering if there was a constructed situation where it may be acceptable and I realized that the most obvious issue to me (age gap) is not necessarily an issue and noted that at the end of the paragraph.
I did not realize how it would be misinterpreted but in hindsight I get it.
Depending on the age range? Its perfectly fine. Hell one of my newish neighbors is one such couple. Dudes dad was dating a women 9 years his junior. They divorced after two years if i recall and his son got together with her and got married.
They been together now like 20 years. He was 22ishand she was like 41ish if I recall right when they got married. He’s now in his 40s and she’s in her 60s.
They are fantastic neighbors. But to be fair was a weird story the first time I heard it from em.
And to be fair they arnt even the largest age gap couple I know. One of my mother’s friends is married to a dude that’s like 80 and she’s 50 they been together for 15 years.
It’s not about the age range - it’s about the step-parent being a parent to a child and then deciding to have a sexual relationship with that person.
Of course there’s circumstances where a step-parent was never actually in a position where they were parenting their partner’s children and it wouldn’t be as abusive to pursue them after a break up. But that’s the exception to the rule.
But it’s unfair to assume the rule is the case when exceptions exist too, right? I understand that is often practical to do so but I still try to avoid it.
Given that apart from memes about porn I have never heard of it even supposedly happening it seems unnecessary to make a generalized assumption. That’s my realistic take, same goes for all the arguably more interesting polyamorous relationship constellations I’ve thought of that are however otherwise unrelated.
I also may have forgotten that step siblings are already long gone. Gosh, what has this conversation become.
That sounds annoyingly plausible and I really don’t want look into that further. So I’ll trust you on that and concede that naive assumptions about relationships are probably not the best for making generalizations.
The US does not consider human rights to exist, of course abuse is legal there. Might as well cite Medieval Europe as an example for the legality of torture.
Besides, I was referring to step-parents and adult non biological children having sexual intercourse. In every case where that is abusive, it is rape which is illegal already.
I am not straight, nor do I have siblings. Rationally I don’t really see why there would be an issue with siblings having sex recreationally without producing children, which wouldn’t even be an issue with step siblings.
With step parents the age difference might also be acceptable. Edit: not really, since the age difference between the parent and step parent would then likely be an issue. Also I intentionally did not exclude the possibility that it could be an issue. But the other power dynamics associated with step parents are obviously not negligibleSomeone recently posted a Wikipedia link to an effect where people growing up together don’t feel sexual attraction to each other, which is the primary reason why I assume it is a taboo (I used to think it was because of the negative health effects for incestuous children), but so long as all involved parties consent I see no issue.
What if it was ranked instead of recreational? Would that still be okay?
Excuse me, what? You’re not insinuating it would be ok for a step-parent to have sex with their step-child, are you?
Yeah, there are uncomfortable power dynamics at play for those roles
Yeah! It’s inherently abusive because of those power dynamics.
Wait, why exactly? I can see it being a problem in some cases but I wouldn’t assume that it is generally a problem. The way I see it it is just two people who are loved ones of a common other (which is not uncommon in polyamorous relationships as far as I know) and the power dynamics would be dependent on those relationships, of which I would assume there is no inherently more powerful one.
The acceptable age ranges do imply something icky between the parent and step parent though.
I should also note that I have not had step parents or children at any point in my life so far and may be unaware of otherwise obvious things.
It’s the power dynamics. A step-parent is in a position of greater power than the child of their partner. It is incredibly unethical to use that position to persuade a younger person to have sex with them.
I most certainly was not trying to insinuate that. I was wondering if there was a constructed situation where it may be acceptable and I realized that the most obvious issue to me (age gap) is not necessarily an issue and noted that at the end of the paragraph.
I did not realize how it would be misinterpreted but in hindsight I get it.
Depending on the age range? Its perfectly fine. Hell one of my newish neighbors is one such couple. Dudes dad was dating a women 9 years his junior. They divorced after two years if i recall and his son got together with her and got married.
They been together now like 20 years. He was 22ishand she was like 41ish if I recall right when they got married. He’s now in his 40s and she’s in her 60s.
They are fantastic neighbors. But to be fair was a weird story the first time I heard it from em.
And to be fair they arnt even the largest age gap couple I know. One of my mother’s friends is married to a dude that’s like 80 and she’s 50 they been together for 15 years.
It’s not about the age range - it’s about the step-parent being a parent to a child and then deciding to have a sexual relationship with that person.
Of course there’s circumstances where a step-parent was never actually in a position where they were parenting their partner’s children and it wouldn’t be as abusive to pursue them after a break up. But that’s the exception to the rule.
But it’s unfair to assume the rule is the case when exceptions exist too, right? I understand that is often practical to do so but I still try to avoid it.
We’re talking about step-parents fucking their step-children.
Let’s be a bit realistic here.
Given that apart from memes about porn I have never heard of it even supposedly happening it seems unnecessary to make a generalized assumption. That’s my realistic take, same goes for all the arguably more interesting polyamorous relationship constellations I’ve thought of that are however otherwise unrelated.
I also may have forgotten that step siblings are already long gone. Gosh, what has this conversation become.
Stepfathers rape their stepdaughters a lot.
That sounds annoyingly plausible and I really don’t want look into that further. So I’ll trust you on that and concede that naive assumptions about relationships are probably not the best for making generalizations.
It would be weird and fucked up, possibly abusive.
But if it’s abusive, it’s already illegal and no sexual act should be illegal just because I consider it weird.
Might even be unconstitutional to make sex between (adult) step-parents and their children illegal but I’m not sure.
There’s plenty of abuse that isn’t strictly illegal.
It’s unethical.
Look at Woody Allen.
The US does not consider human rights to exist, of course abuse is legal there. Might as well cite Medieval Europe as an example for the legality of torture.
Besides, I was referring to step-parents and adult non biological children having sexual intercourse. In every case where that is abusive, it is rape which is illegal already.