Representatives of more than 50 nations gathered in Santa Marta, Colombia, this week at what was billed as the first global summit on phasing out fossil fuels. A panel of scientists will be advising them

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    How are you going to move large passanger planes to renewable power? Or trucks? Get failed Tesla Semi from Elon Musk?

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        Using Fischer-Tropsch (FT) synthesis

        That’s completely infeasible financially. What you liked is a propaganda piece.

        Even if you used ammonia as fuel, the round trip efficiency is like 17%, steam reforming into regular jet fuel is probably even worse since production has three steps instead of two.

        And If you consider cost of electricity alone this turns into a pipe dream

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          Even if you used ammonia as fuel, the round trip efficiency is like 17%

          Do you have any sources backing this up?

          And also, I mentioned eSAF, not SAF. There’s a difference.

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            Don’t have an article at hand. I’ve seen this in two places, one article back when I was looking into it, and the other was one of Sabine Hossenfelder videos about fuels.

            Numbers in both sources were similar

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              I think the effiency of eSAF is closer to be around 35-50 %, but I am by no means an expert in PtX (PtL).

              But it is still extremely expensive, 6x more expensive than normal jet fuel. And the goal in EU is that by 2030 0.7 % of the fuel mix is eSAF.

              I think the biggest challenge is the infrastructure. We are having issues with negative power prices in EU, more eSAF production can be one solution to a more stable grid in places with a high penetration of renewable energy production.