• ccunning@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Single-sex toilets and changing rooms in England, Wales and Scotland must exclude transgender men and women, according to a new code of practice from the equalities watchdog.

    But the long-awaited guidance also says that businesses and service providers have to offer practical alternatives such as gender-neutral toilets for people who do not wish to use services for their biological sex.

    I guess I’m naive to hope that a business would rather convert existing facilities to two multi-sex bathrooms rather than have to build and give up existing space to a third bathroom.

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      3 months ago

      Make all WC unisex. No physical change other than signage. Will this fix the problem? No, it will make.a royal fucking mess of it all and hopefully press politicians to reverse their trans phobic laws.

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        3 months ago

        One thing I like about the separation is that men tend to clear the toilet faster, which means the line moves quicker

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          3 months ago

          I agree. Removing that perk by making them all unisex is another thing that will make it a miserable experience for all. The idea is for it to be horrible enough for the TERFs to back off and the laws to change.

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          3 months ago

          I was recently at a venue that had two bathrooms: the unisex one which is all stalls, and one for men which is all urinals. Seems like the best of both worlds to me.

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      3 months ago

      At work we had a male and female single-cubicle bathroom in reception. These are high-value bathrooms at work for dropping off the kids.

      Somebody complained that there weren’t any gender neutral bathrooms so they’re both unisex now.

      Now the men use the women’s bathroom and the women don’t use it anymore.

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        If it’s single unit why would women not use it anymore…?

        My work had gendered single unit bathrooms but the women’s bathroom was farther away from the office space and since it was single room people of any gender just used the closer one regardless, and eventually they just swapped out the signs to gender neutral ones because of it’s single stall who gives a shit? No one is going in there with you.

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          3 months ago

          Because men tend to cover things in their own excrement and leave toilet seats up or piss on them etc etc etc.

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            3 months ago

            My highschool job was working at a sporting goods store. My closing duties each night were to clean the women’s restroom and occasionally cover for another department to clean the men’s room. I can tell you that the women’s restroom was always grosser. Yeah, there would be more pee on the seats and floor in the men’s room, but the rest of the place was far cleaner than the women’s.

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              Bathrooms are safe spaces for women. A line must be drawn in the most easy to define way to exclude men from the women’s bathroom. This is a court ruling to define law.