Reminder that Charlie Kirk was an extremist, who wanted to “remove” (read: genocide) people he didn’t like.

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    I find it deeply hilarious that the mask has less of uncanny valley vibe, and in general less revolting than the real face

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    Please. She clearly hated him as much as anyone. Probably more, since she had to spend more time with him.

    As if she would be offended by someone re-enacting the day she was catapulted to national fame and never had to look at charlie kirk ever again.

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    It was okay to do with George Floyd though right? I don’t remember hearing much condemnation on the right about that …

    Floyd was even more innocent because he was just minding his own business.

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      “even more innocent” doesn’t even begin to cover the difference between a bigoted, sexist fascist turd and an average guy.

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        You think your average guy is a convicted felon with meth and fent addiction?

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          wow, he had an addiction? that’s crazy. surely having an addiction makes you evil, surely.

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            I doubt the average American has been convicted of a violent crime and has multiple drug addictions but somehow you think that’s a moral judgement and not simple fact.

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              You brought it up during a discussion of morality and are surprised people are interpreting that as you making a moral judgement? Are you being purposely obtuse or accidentally stupid? It’s hard to tell online.

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                If facts are clashing with your morals that’s your problem not mine.

                I simply disagree with labelling your average man as a violent drug addict.

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              when selecting any single person there are multiple things about them that are not average (plays violin/is gay/has 3 cats/…) yet we would still denote them as average people. So it very much does feel like the difference is a moral judgement

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                True, though it seems to me that holding someone at gunpoint during a home invasion is abnormal behaviour and not the behaviour of an average man.

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                  Having someone murder you by kneeling on your neck for nine minutes is something that is abnormal as well.

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            Okay? I don’t see what that’s got to do with someone thinking an average American is both a violent criminal and drug addict.

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              Well the last violent crime he committed was in 2007 (aggrevated robbery) for which he got out at 2013 and seems like he managed to turn his life around by working two jobs but then probably succumbed to poverty after he lost them both in 2020 COVID pandemic. All these pretty understandable given that Lloyd had a pretty poor childhood, if you want to find the average in him. So a description of the type “violent criminal” looks more like a MAGA rhetoric at this point rather than a refined understanding of the situation.

              Charlie Kirk, on the other hand, was coming from an extremely privileged background and had every reason to be a decent person but yet somehow managed to turn himself into a turd of collosal magnitude. So yeah “even more innocent” doesn’t begin to explain the difference.

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          Eh, the point still stands, that is the level of absolue shittyness we are talking about. If we account for the backgrounds these people come from it makes the gap even wider.

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            I’ve not made any comparison with Kirk.

            Simply pointing out that your average man does not have a history as a violent criminal and drug addict.

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                What don’t you get about my statement that the average man isn’t a drug addict with a conviction for violent crime?

                There’s no ulterior motive to that statement of fact. It’s just a fact. Admitting it won’t hurt you.

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                  Have you seen me opposing the statement that he has committed violent crimes in his past or that it isn’t the average man behaviour? I have even given more context on the nature of the crime. “Yes but …” exactly means even under this context the statement still holds true. If I thought that was not the case I would oppose your statement with facts rather than update mine. So I think it might be you who is not understanding the statement.

                  I don’t think you have an ulterior motive but focusing on one superficial aspect of the statement and using reductive descriptions you are missing the depth of what you have gotten into. It feels like I am saying “Like Pluto, Neptune is quite far from Mars” and you are saying “Yes but Pluto isn’t a planet and is also farther”.

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                  Violence against others is fine so long as you do it with words that encourage hate among others in the setting of being a college campus speaker though right? I am just asking questions here.

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          I mean, have you heard the numbers “saved” by Trump from fentenol from his xenophobic bull shit? The “average guy” would haveto be a fent addict twice to make some of those even make sense.

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        Its really wild to me when Kirk died just HOW MANY people seemed to come pouring out trying to lionize that fuckwit asshole.

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    Oh what? So I guess comedy is just illegal now is that it? These dumbass republican snowflakes. Can’t take a fucking joke. Trying to cancel culture every damn thing.

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    I’ll be honest, I don’t like this.

    If the tables are turned I wouldn’t like a right wing nut job doing this, I think it’s crass. At best it’s crass.

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      agreed.

      it is more ironic with Kirk standing for gun stuff but… yea, its… its quite awful to… do this stuff infront of his widow…

      being all binary “haha right bad” can be fun, but we mustnt be that american about it.

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      To be honest, I don’t like Nazis.

      I don’t like it when people go to college campuses to tell women that they have no worth. To tell trans people they aren’t real. To tell black people that they have no culture outside of violence. To worship guns in a place where gun violence pervades but has no purpose. Honestly, I don’t like fucking Nazis or the people who support them because they are overflowing with empathy for bad people.

      If the tables were turned… Huh, they wouldn’t be. Because most people don’t create entire careers around violent retoric, nor die by the object of their affection while excusing violence.

      Truth: If I spent a career fucking around it would also find out.

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        I agree with everything you said, I just don’t think this or stooping to their level achieves anything.

        We shouldn’t be giving these people a platform, we shouldn’t be letting them preach their moronic and false shit.

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      The difference is that they make fun of minorities getting killed. We make fun of fascists getting killed. It is not the same in any way.

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        I just don’t like stooping to their level. I’d rather actual fucking consequences.

        Like if you do this you’re inviting yourself to get punched in the face. And if I was on a jury, someone doing this kinda shit and getting punched would be fine.

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      Don’t get me wrong, if Erika Kirk wanted to make the world a better place she could start by hastening her trip to join Charlie in hell. I’ll also happily agree that Charlie was less an innocent victim and more an enemy combatant in the ongoing conflict between fascism and humanity. Even so, I feel like the performative cruelty here isn’t exactly a good look. I’m not criticizing anyone’s feeling of catharsis or schadenfreude about Kirk’s fate, but this was a public display. It took effort and planning. They made props. And as a piece of political theater, this is not what we ought to be about. The message shouldn’t focus on Kirk’s death, but on making sure his life is remembered accurately: as a fascist debate bro who took massive amounts of money from the Epstein class to make internet memes for letting them do whatever they want. A man who immediately abandoned any libertarian small-government principles he used to claim once it became clear that openly hating gays, immigrants, and nonwhite people was politically viable.

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      The difference is that right wing ideology is hate and violence. So it’s not even close to the same thing.

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      It’s not a high class endeavor to be sure, but when they go low someone needs to kick them in the teeth.

      Then we can go back to the regularly scheduled highbrow programming.

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      Doesn’t matter if is right or left ring. None sides gonna talk about Romenian Angels.

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    If you can’t handle this with a stiff upper lip then it’s simply a skill issue. But seriously I would love to see Erika follow in her husband’s footsteps, it’d be funny.