• Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Having better weapons than your enemy will make you safer, yes. And when they’ve been trying to conquer you for a thousand years or so, I think that’s a fair approach.

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      I mean I do have to ask, what’s the main perk of AI drones. IE finding one guy who can sit on a chair and pilot a remote drone, still seems significantly cheaper and more reliable than hope the AI can differentiate a group of school children from a military opperation. (though with the track records I’ve seen of most militaries, probably not much).

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        Depends on what you are talking about. Using an AI to work out ‘viable’ targets during the planning stage? That’s how you end up blowing up an Iranian girls school. Using AI to highlight vehicles and steer the drone into them after the command is given? That is becoming a necessity in Ukraine, where the jamming and other counter measures make remotely flying drones more and more difficult.

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        I think the main advantage is the drone, once locked onto a target, cannot be jammed. Both sides have a bunch of handheld jammers, as well as bigger vehicle mounted ones, which is why this and fibre optic drones are so common.

        You’d hope there wouldn’t be any school children in the middle of a war zone.

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        Send 1000 drones to an area.

        Program them to understand what different types of targets look like, basic maps, etc.

        Program them to know what a destroyed target looks like.

        Instead of 1000 drones attacking one target over and over, you get a swarm of drones moving on from destroyed targets and they can’t be stopped by communication jammers.

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          Ukraine already had drones capable of autonomously recognize tanks, including their type, and attack them at their known weak point. If there are people inside, this can kill them. The only “revolution” here is they can now do it on smaller drones made to track humans.

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        Also one guy in a chair per drone is not enough with the amount of targets present. Image recognition and value/hit probability (AI) lets one guy pilot many drones (in theory, haven’t seen that yet) and still have the final say whether he wants to hit the targets it suggests.

        Potentially lets you use drones farther too, find and track a target while it’s flying high, confirm the thing manually, then fly below the radio horizon until it hits said target.

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        Isn’t the problem jamming when you have remote operation so the AI doing this self sufficiently does not need a signal anymore.

        Perhaps these can be jammed too but this was part of the tech race in this war. It’s why they used fiber glass cables.

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        radio and satellite communication jamming has resulted in fiber optic drones. Autonomous permits longer range from safer control room, on general area to deploy to.

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        Ukraine had drones capable of recognizing tanks and attack them at their weakest points after losing their signal. They had it for a long time now. That was already a “terminator drone” for the tanks’ crew, but at the time medias didn’t make much noise about it.

        Russia still rely on drones connected by optic fibers. They still don’t have autonomous tanks killers, and their drones operators are exposed because Ukraine’s tech has a range advantage: their operators get to stay beyond Russian drones range.

        So no, Russia doesn’t have the tech yet.