• ThrowawayOnLemmy@lemmy.world
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    Centrist Democrats are intentionally being obtuse about this because they work for the same billionaires the Republicans work for.

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      When you take out the culture war aspect of politics it seems pretty accurate. Culture war doesn’t really affect billionaires monetarily, so they don’t give a shit. It’s just there to distract the masses emotionally on both sides like any good marketing or propaganda.

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        To a certain extent I think you’re correct. However, the result being that there are now people who actually want my parents dead because they’re lesbians is a problem that we need to solve too.

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          Yeah the elite are happy to fan the culture war because it doesn’t effect them, but the fallout from them doing so is now ANOTHER problem that absolutely needs to be fixed

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        Culture war doesn’t really affect billionaires monetarily

        It doesn’t even affect them much personally. Imagine if Jeff Bezos was the most flamboyantly gay man on Earth. He could move to and live openly in Afghanistan with complete safety. He would have to buy off a lot of politicians. But every politician is always hurting for money. Most will happily look the other way in exchange for donations/bribes. It wasn’t rich gay men getting arrested at Stonewall.

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      They can’t imagine it. That’s why they’re shitting their pants. these people didn’t get their jobs by actually governing, and now they don’t know how they’re going to keep them.

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    This is such a wild article, it’s a monument to the arrogance and stupidity that lead to the DNC dropping every single wide open ball they have been thrown in my adult life

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    They’re so busy collecting corporate checks that they forgot to represent their constituents. No idea why people might swing to someone who actually wants to preserve the population that actually buys things.

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    This is TERRIBLE news for US! The OBVIOUS solution is to FORGET the People VOTING for these Progressives and TRY to Entice the Death-Before-Dem MAGAS instead!

    -Highly Paid Democratic Stragtegists!

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      Death-Before-Dem MAGAS

      I was listening to the Professional Left podcast (I think it was on there) and they mentioned something about asking some farmers who are being destroyed by Donvict - “well, why did you vote for him, after the first term?”

      Their answer: they had no choice.

      I mean, what can you even do with this level of cult behavior? Seriously, what harm are the Democrats going to do to farmers? Is it really all just about trans and “men in women’s sports”?

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        It literally is. You can’t vote blue if you have stronge conservative values. I had a coworker (unsolicited) tell me that essentially he would support anything he considered conservative (non-woke) even if it meant burning everything down and starting over. Not sure why he felt a conversation about baseball at a company dinner I was paying for as a company event needed to be redirected to political beliefs. But there we all were sitting there all being very uncomfortable.

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        I’ve listened to Sarah Taber talk about running for a North Carolina Commissioner of Agriculture and said she was able to get more Republican votes from rural areas than the suburbs.

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        The book “Dying of Whiteness” is fascinating and depressing look into this. Many people would rather personally suffer and die than let the out-group have something nice. They don’t want healthcare for all because that means black people get it.

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          Hm, sounds interesting.

          I remember the studies into what they called “last place aversion”, which also might explain some of those that vote against their own interests…

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    The massage should be clear to these “centrists”: Get on board with the progressives or GTFO.

    No more “good faith” or “reaching across the aisle”. We need real goddamned opposition to these fascist traitors.

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    I want more of it. Burn down their establishment politics and support for the billionaires.

    Take over the party and help the people.

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    Moderates of any given political flavor is going to have a bigger base than far-left or far-right politicians so even though they’re getting through the primaries the generals might be a blood bath when the moderates realize their voice isn’t going to be heard so they sit this election out.

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      Source: Trust me bro. Politics is a flat line and winning is about getting as far into your opponents territory as possible. That’s why MAGA wins. They’re so moderate. /s

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          I’m sorry, you just said moderates, left or right have a larger base of support, then ignored it when the right moderates lost to an extremist and complained about the people you call a “base” not voting. I think you need to give your poorly thought out theory another pass by reality.

          Hint: Politics isn’t a line. I put the /s tag there to make it obvious that’s a dumb idea that’s not true.

          And maybe if you think the right wins because their moderates unify with an extremist you should stop fantasizing about the comeuppance where the left moderates do the disunity you say is the poison pill for Democrats. The template for success is right there.

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        You’re the only one talking about supporting genocides right now.

        I do agree with funding Ukraine to help prevent Russia’s genocide of them and that seems to only be a moderate position these days.