Well, the Adpocalypse has happened.

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    3 months ago

    AI-generated image by Mark Stenberg via Gemini

    The irony of the subject matters being about how bad the impact AI/LLM is

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    Google: Muahaha, we train our AI with the data from the publishers’ sites while indexing them. Then we summarize their site so the user never leaves our site and all the ad revenue is ours, brilliant!

    Publishers: People aren’t coming to our site from Google search because it just summarizes our site for them. So we lose no traffic by completely blocking Google from crawling us.

    Google: *Surprised Pikachu face*

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      It’s not that complicated - block all bot traffic by default, whitelist the bots you can verify are only indexing for search (which is actually beneficial traffic).

      The thing that Google’s doing to piss off websites is that they use the same bots for indexing and AI trawling, so if you want to show up on their indexes you have to let them slam your website/server to train their AI.

      Now websites are telling Google to fuck off because the cost of AI trawling isn’t worth being on their search index

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        It’s not that complicated - block all bot traffic by default,

        It’s not that easy to identify bot traffic. AI companies have been incredibly persistent and aggressive at pretending to be humans to scrape sites.

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        it’s not worth the cost because once google has your information, users won’t need to visit your website.

        the question of "who is going to be creating all this high-quality data not only for no money but also for no recognition?‘’ goes unasked

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    I’ve opted out of search (not just google, most other commercial search) in ~2024. Have not regretted it since, happy to see even commercial entities coming to the conclusion that Google’s garbage and not worth it anymore.

    Now, if they’d also follow the past set by indies, and block AI crawlers too, and make that the norm, that would be grand.

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          Read. It. Again.

          See what “opting out” entails.

          Read. It. For comprehension.

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            2 months ago

            I did.

            The insults are cute and all but asking me to prove your point for you isn’t the flex you think it is.

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              No. You apparently didn’t.

              Go back and re-read it for comprehension. Look specifically at what opting out involves. Then smack yourself while looking into a mirror. I won’t be here to enjoy it because I generally don’t want to waste any more time on the wilfully illiterate.

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                  One of you doesn’t think Google has the resources to bypass the Cloudflare anti-scraping bot mechanisms. The other one does.

                  Please be civil and state disagreements clearly. Clearly nobody on Lemmy roots for Team Big Tech.