cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49310400
Alabama Republican voters and politicians meanwhile:
Maybe being a bag of dicks to the rest of the world wasn’t such a great idea.
It’s not California being a dick. But the boycott is justified all the same.
Californian here, and I would agree that US-CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is and that’s why the bourbon boycott is effective. But, hurt US-CA and you’re hurting the US, so I support that. And the elephant in the room is that are more Republicans in US-CA than any other state, and I’d wager a high percentage of winery owners skew Republican.
It’s a shame, but the boycott is warranted. I just hope that when we get back to sane times, other countries remember that California largely tries to do the right thing. The way you look at the US, us Californians look at the rest of the US the same way.
Yeah all those winery owners are rich conservatives
CA isn’t really the problem that, say, Kentucky is
Reactionaries in California outnumber reactionaries in Kentucky 10:1
And sane people outnumber “reactionaries”/republicans. Your point?
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter. See Mitch McConnell. Credit where due, however, their governor is pretty good.
All of that isn’t to say I object to the boycott. I most certainly do not.
Is it really that simple when the technology companies that have enabled all of this the most have been most supported by and enabled by California. I agree that the average persons worldview is much healthier in California but none of this is likely to have happened without the dominant social platforms and data collection of American tech.
That’s capitalism, baby. And I hate it too.
You’re willfully ignorant if you think the average California voter does more harm than the harmful Kentucky voter
I’ve seen enough evidence to believe Gavin Newsom and Dianne Feinstein have committed atrocities. Nevermind Kamala Harris.
“Atrocities”, really? Did you bring that evidence to share with the class?
Right, because the trouble is that boycotts become meaningless when you start trying to justify buying from certain states (no state is homogenous) or by C-suite political support (also not homogenous). At the end of the day, the tax money all funds a government that threatens Canada with economic warfare and annexation. I hope US businesses run by good people do well, but right now it has to be Americans themselves who support them.
You seem to be under the impression that I do not support Canadas boycott. I do. Re-read my comment.
I would agree that CA isn’t really the problem
hurt CA and you’re hurting the US
Republicans in CA
I just want to point out that in the context of multiple countries, “CA” would refer to Canada, as it’s literally the worldwide recognized 2-letter ISO-3166 country code.
And yes, while most people would understand what is meant from the context, using US defaultism in a thread about another country boycotting US American products kinda bumps.
That is an extremely good point, and does expose my bias (I live in California, but ironically dual Canadian citizen). I’ll lightly edit the comment using the ISO-3166 code for California (respectfully for you, because as much of a fan of ISO standards as I am, I’d not heard of 3166. Thanks).
I live in wine country. Anyone who owns a winery is a capitalist douchebag, full fuckin stop. Feel no sympathy for them in your decision making. Boycott the cunts into the fucking ground.
I mean for the rest of the world noone cares what individual states think and do. The president and his administration represent the American people.
It’s not California being a dick.
California is flush with right wing reactionaries and techno-fascist shitheads.
Can’t really selectively target a nations dipshits so unfortunately you all get punished for not stopping it
I was talking to my bro a few weeks ago, after an edible and a joint mind you, and I had the idea that the best thing the rest of the world could do is to stop acknowledging the US as a whole and ONLY recognize individual states as independent nations.
This would cause so much chaos
That would mean the EU or various other unions around the world would have to expect the same treatment in return
Also most countries like the UN rules
I mean there are many reasons that would prevent it from happening. But thinking about the ramifications if the international community just had enough of the US’s bullshit that they decided to do it that way would be very interesting.
It’s not without merit either, as the “states rights” people in the US might even support it, which would be absolutely wild.
Just a thought experiment, fueled by an altered state of mind, produced happy thoughts
Oh I can assure you China, Iran, and Ukraine are done with USA’s bullshit. China started it by being the first to tell Trump no in his 2nd term by shutting off rare earth metals.
USA has been doing just that for years. Look up FEOC.
California, home to the most evil and powerful companies in the world. Lmao.
It’s not a la carte dicks of America. It’s United States of America. At a certain geopolitical level there is no good vs evil. Just politicians vs politicians.
This is why having normal human beings in the driver’s seat is important and not just entertainment.
Some of California votes consistently Republican. The whole state is not exempt.
Some of California votes consistently Republican.
38% of California, in the last election. Mostly in rural areas.
Like the wine growing areas eh?
Not only will I not buy us booze if back on the shelves but I actively avoid buying any american products if possible and I will never travel there again in my life time. Fuck the pedophile and all who support him and the others who are full of apathy and avarice and sit idly by.
This like all the other trade that is disappearing to the EU is going to become a permanent change. Prior allies now view the US as an enemy and aggressor and are forming alternative routes of trade. This will not be returning just because the president is changed in the future. The relationship is over.
I can only hope that the US snaps back hard managing to show the world that there are still good people here…maybe after civil war 2 electric boogaloo
Unless there is a Nuremberg style trial for the current administration, I don’t know how America can gain back it’s trust.
Even if Americans elect a president that is super helpful/generous to allies, there is always the chance that they elect another Trump in the following election who basically has almost free reign to do anything they want with no consequences.
The constitution that Americans beat over everyone’s heads has been revealed to be republican toilet paper.
Yeah, Trump has exposed how broken the American system is. He’s exposed American as completely incapable, or unwilling, of preventing a criminal enterprise from running the country into the ground.
I can’t believe Russia somehow won the cold war after all this time, for all the red scare anti communist shit this country went through, they now resemble Russian style oligarchy run by criminal barons more and more, how soon before Trump starts another war to justify why he needs to remain in power
Most of the good people that don’t just flee would be dead after a Civil War 2, leaving only proficient killers and crooks, or just cowards who keep their noses down. Large swathes of the country would be, for decades at least, one of “those places” that you never travel to and hear tales of barbarism from every now and then. Civil war would be a degradation, not a redemption arc.
Yeah that’s what I think as well, because Trump is just a symptom of a larger issue, he represents a large percentage of americans, especially amonght the rich, he did not get to this position without the backing of these greedy fascist pigs who know they can use him to make a lot of profit at the expense of the common people, even when he’s gone, these foreign nations still have to deal with these greedy sociopaths and their meddling in foreign affairs, not to mention the dumb voting public who might just back another little Nazi who makes them feel good about themselves
I was thinking the other day how funny it is that the Untied States has had such wide influence that multiple IPs from other countries got movies made in America (Harry Potter, Smurfs, LEGO, The Handmaid’sTale). Now that Trump has ruined America’s relationship with the rest of the world, I wonder if we’ll see less of that
Good. Boycotts work. If any of you Americans out there are wondering how you can fight…boycotts work.
My neighbourhood grocery store and liquor store have both decided to stop stocking US goods.
I don’t miss anything. As a Canadian, this is more important to me.
I’m from Maine and took a road trip to Halifax, Nova Scotia recently. I stopped in a licquor store (the LC) and jokingly asked the cashiers where the bourbon was. They got a good chuckle out of that one.
Rideau Whiskey may not say it’s Bourbon on the bottle, but there’s bourbon in the bottle. Because of some dumb laws you can’t call it bourbon unless it’s made a certain region in the US, sort of like champagne. So we actually do have bourbon, even if it’s not called that.
Give it a gew years and we can maybe start repealing that legislation. No NAFTA? No more preferred trademarks.
It’s kind of like how sparking wine must come from the Champagne region of France to be termed Champagne.
Bourbon is just a naming convention for corn whiskey. I’m just finding out based on your post that Rideau Whiskey is in my neck of the woods, and I will have to try it! BRBN from Okanagan Spirits has been our recent treat - my husband really loves bourbon and this has hit the mark
Heres the legal requirements:
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51+% corn
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Aged in new, charred oak barrels
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Produced in the U.S.
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And then the generic proof ones.
So no, not every corn whisky is a Bourbon, although they may taste the same.
Well it tastes like bourbon to me, so I don’t really what it’s called :P
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Oof, it’s $60 now, it was $40 when I bought a couple of bottles of it. It’s kinda weird because I can’t find it on the LCBO site, I had to order it online.
I like it better than Wild Turkey or Maker’s. Not sure if I’d consider it to be high end tho.
Clan Colla (from Ireland tho, not Canada) is really good, better than Booker’s (which used to be my favourite) IMO. But that’s super hard to get, I happened to pick up a bottle of it at the Dublin airport and now in my circle we consider it to be the best. Which is kind of a problem since it’s so hard to get.
It’s fine stuff but if money is no object I’d rather have actual whiskey (with an ‘e’) anyway.
Too bad you didn’t take the opportunity to drink some Legendario, my favourite (so far) Cuban rum. Had my buddy in Nova Scotia bring me some a few months ago when he was coming out. Wish they sold it it my area but sadly they do not. Happily however I have friends
Good, that’s the point.
Fuck Gretzky wines in particular.
part of me wants to go to Brantford and accidentally bump into all the Gretzky wines at the LCBO
Do the full tour, beat a spouse and drive a RAM1500 drunk.
yeah, that’s shit.
I’m trying to use as few american products as I can. It is nit easy as they have infected everyday life too much.
Not buying Nestlé is much simpler
Nestle is evil but Swiss
Same, and i live here lmao
“Put our booze back on your shelves! Also we don’t care and we don’t need you.”
Then stop being a shitstain of a country
false. the US administration is on record saying they don’t need us.
do you doubt dear leader?
Canada’s boycott of U.S. wines ‘causing devastating harm,’
That’s the point, dumbass.
If you want it to stop, talk to the clown in the white house.
This boycott wouldn’t be happening if he didn’t decide to threaten, insult and attack Canada.
Who could have foreseen this?
Oh, wait, we all could I’m sorry I have stroke nice doggy
And we all foresee things getting worse, yet it’s still being allowed to happen
California senators don’t get to tell me what to buy. Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live. We have American booze on the shelves. I just don’t want to buy American garbage anymore so I’m not doing it.
Framing it as a “boycott” is just wrong, at least where I live
I avoid most US chains and import foods simply because they’re junk, so I know what you mean, but that doesn’t negate the boycott movement of people who were regularly buying US products.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025-2026_Canadian_boycott_of_the_United_States
Boycott - To abstain, either as an individual or a group, from using, buying, or dealing with someone or some organization as an expression of protest.
For me those last words, “as an expression of protest” are important. For me there’s no protest and thus no boycott. The upset caused me to try Canadian products. I like them better.
Yes, we know you are not boycotting.
Some other people are boycotting.
No one should. Let Napa feel the pain for once.
Oh no, the boycott we initiated with the explicit intention of causing DEVASTATING HARM is causing devastating harm. Fie on intended consequences!!!
Canada did not cause anything…the usa did.
