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          Democrats staunchly support Israel. Here’s Biden’s funding to Israel for example:

          If someone calling themselves a democrat doesn’t support Israel, then they are completely clueless as to their own party’s actions and platform, and are in the wrong party.

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          The last seven D candidates for President of the US? The Senate and House minority leaders? The current establishment candidate for Senate in Wisconsin?

          The Democrats-as-a-party are complicit in Gaza and Iran.

          Democrats-as-voters are about 80% fed up with it, but that’s not enough in a country with politics as stitched up as the US.

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          Uhhh. Which democrats oppose the conditions of Israeli torture dungeons? I’d lend you a hand but I think you only need one.

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            Are we talking about the same thing?

            I said the Republicans were jealous of the terrorists getting to post pictures and you said the “and the Dems aren’t?” Implying that the Democrats are also jealous of terrorists getting to post pictures

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      In context to the culture wars and the dumb turd herds below the leadership you are going to most likly gonna meet more bottom dweller libturds showing disgust then the conservahogs. Fuck lemmy sometimes… muthfuckers thinking they are sharp as steel… like for real… infighting is stoopid. I get chooo… Remember the democraps refused to release why they lost the election… spoiler it was gaza. The hurd is stupid… stupid is the root of all evil and sometimes stupid is a choice. The choice muthafuckers is the problem.

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      “My great grandpa got killed by Nazis in a pretty gnarly way so now I get a free pass to kill and torture people who trespass onto land my grandpa’s friends stole for us. It’s pretty awesome. I didn’t make the rules but I’m not complaining. Was this what it was like for Americans in their Cowboys and Indians phase? I think I get the appeal now.”

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    It’s genuinely hard for me to comprehend how fucked in the head you have to be to not only be smiling as you kidnap a child, but to then post evidence of it yourself as though it’s something to be proud of. Like it’s one thing for politicians or assholes online who are several steps removed from these atrocities to confidently spew hate online like it’s normal. How does a person not only witness this, but do it with their own two hands and have THIS reaction?

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      And heads up, zionists dont see americans or christians as any more human than they see palestinians.

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      But they are several steps removed from reality. They are so brainwashed that they think it’s okay, that normal people cheer them on, and that it’s only bad people who would see anything wrong with this.

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      When they’re not seen as humans but animals, vermin, etc. it becomes easy to commit such atrocities.

      An excerpt from “On Freedom” by Timothy Snyder I’m currently reading helps define it some,

      In Nazi propaganda, east Europeans were subhuman beasts. On Soviet posters, rich peasants were pigs. Russian television today takes this notion to a postmodern extreme: Ukrainians are to be exterminated because they are Nazis, Jews, gays, Satanists, ghouls, zombies, vermin. The next step is violence, the opposite of recognition of the Leib. When we torture or humiliate a body, we further objectify it. After the body has been degraded and the person humiliated, the killer finds the work easier to bear. Some enjoy it.

      How he defines Lieb in the book,

      The word Leib gets us to a new standpoint. The German language has two terms for “body,” Körper and Leib. The word Körper can denote a person’s body but also a “foreign body” (Fremdkörper), a “heavenly body” (Himmelskörper), the “racial body” (Volkskörper), and other objects thought to be subject to physical laws. A Körper might be alive, but it need not be (compare corpse). Stein says, “There can be a Körper without me, but no Leib without me.” The word Leib designates a living human body, or an animal body, or the body of an imaginary creature in a story. A Leib is a Körper, subject to physical laws, but that is not all it is. It has its own rules and so its own opportunities. A Leib can move, a Leib can feel, and a Leib has its own center, impossible to graph precisely in space, which Stein calls a “zero point.” We can always see some of our Leib, but we can never see all of it.

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      It begins with regarding other people (be them a different skin colour, culture, or faith) as a problem. Then the roadmap to regard them as less than worthy as Humans is well on its way. Once you’ve established them as lesser and unworthy, committing atrocities on them is very easy.

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        @Tattorack @darthelmet I don’t think it’s ever easy even then to commit atrocities. I think it takes a special kind of degenerate people, in a degenerate environment, to become sadistic women and children murderers that also burn crops, poison wells, kill animals, enforce famine and deny relief to those they deliberately wound and maim…

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          History is full of examples of it being easy. You strip away the human status from a particular group and suddenly you don’t feel so bad hurting them. So long as you don’t talk with them, of course. That usually makes people realise the others are just people too.

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    Please, give me a reason that it has every been justified to take a picture of a prisoner with this sort of giddy celebration and mockery. How does that look anything but out of touch and vile?

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      What are the conversations, the positioning, the processes of dehumanization that lead to these moments? I’m as confused as you by these people.

      How can you smile and laugh in such a carefree way when right next to you a boy is bound and blindfolded. Says so much about the moral decay on display of those ‘guards’.

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    This is probably a dumbass question, but why do so many Israeli people I see look like generic Californian white people? Is it just cosmetic trends or what?

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      Americans are European and many Israeli Jews are also just Europeans. Three hundred years back both their ancestors were all living in Poland.

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      the zionism that ended up creating isreal was originally created by europeans who wanted the jews to leave europe by creating a homeland for them to go to.

      it had morphed into prominent european jews into wanting it for themselves and jewish people everywhere becomes part of the cutlures they originate from – like everyone else does – and that includes white people style racism.

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      They are first and foremost an ideology, a white supremacist one that emerged in the late 1800s and had direct ties to Nazi Germany itself.

      Judaism is just another shield. They even tried to sterilise other non-white Jews they hated just because.

      Let no one fool you, they are as secularist as you can get, with plenty of cultism stuffed in too.

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    Why would you just post this fucking screenshot of a tweet by an amazing investigate news outlet…instead of just fucking linking to the article?

    Get the fuck out with that low effort trash that’s destroying our community!

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      I’ve seen you in two comment sections now being upset that a post is not an article but instead some other format. To some extent I can understand that frustration but you don’t even post articles. I feel like you don’t have a right to be as vitriolic as you are being when you don’t even contribute to these communities

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      Go post the article then instead of being a whiny baby. This is not your community.

      What more do you think is in the article besides dropsite verification of the kidnapping?

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    A full embargo on that country would be interesting. Like 100% blockade, all levels.

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    wait. zios with tattoos? that’s gonna be troublesome later, huh? guess they really are JUST in it for the terrorism.

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    Lets hope these ladies get killed and there is a story were there mother is crying. That would be awesome. Or like the ladies become disfigured via shrapnel. That’s what I hope. God I hope IRAN is building nukes.

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      No, I agree with this one. “Punch nazis” still applies to them.

      Tho I personally would rather see another set of Nuremberg Trials instead of plain violence for this specific case. It’s more just, and also fits my other values better.

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        Ok…. I am ok with that to. Savor the flavor and create a ritual around it. Do we get capes and hoods then I am a onehundo percent behind this approach? I am kinda a cave man you know… but capes, hoods and black masses killing fascist with rituals, shame and systemic abuse. Me so horny. The pendulum swings eventually. Can I show up for the public hanging? I want to see them drop. I want to hear their necks pop. I want to see mussolini strawberry jam. Pop a few rounds in their corpse. Like I don’t care what you got down there at all. Justice is justice… can we shave their heads too? Values pfffft… justice is justice… does it weigh out? Now bag it up.