Obligatory Fuck Spez
I think he might’ve misunderstood a message and thinks there’s really that many people who want to have sex with him…
Fuck Spez
Don’t fuck Spez actually, there’s no doubt in my mind he’s a terrible shag.
Greedy little pigboy
Fuck that twat. He did get me off of reddit, so credit there.
Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it’s something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They’re only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.
Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?
I still go on reddit often since that’s where most of the game communities I want to hear from are.
Same, Lenny isn’t mature enough to have some of the very niche communities yet
It’s not even mature enough to support some mainstream interests, like sports.
no laundry community on Llemmy either…
Lol what is this, I’m out of the loop here lol
Lemmy doesnt have a laundry dedicated community anywhere that Ive looked… reddit does however…
So I guess the Lemmings let mama and dada do their laundry for them still 😅
so its nothing more than a community that talks about Laundry? sorry if this sounds dumb but man I had been on reddit since the 2010’s and I am just now learning about this lol
That’s the problem with Lemmy. It’s not large enough to have active niche communities like gaming handhelds like Retroid ones, Anbernic ones, Steam Deck, etc.
That’s the problem with changing social networks.
People goes where people are. So it takes some major scew up from the current networks. Or a newcomer that have some killer feature everybody will want / need.
And lemmy lacks that “killer feature”
Lemmy/Piefed/Etc has a killer feature (or maybe characteristic), but one that only a fraction of users find appealing. Being decentralized makes the network more resistant to many of the problems we see on Reddit and other networks, or at least, reduces their impact.
Yeah, it’s not something lots of people will care about. And some eventually stops at “choosing in instance”.
That killer feature is also very unappealing/confusing to the average user. Very similar to Linux in that regard
They will get it eventually it just takes time for people to realize they need to try again. That’s the main issue is people are just lazy.
But I’ve been through multiple conversions like from slashdot to digg then to reddit and now federated. There will always be slow people that take awhile to figure out there is something better to be had.
I still go on Reddit in some cases because google seo or niche communities that are already pretty small. I mean I don’t login anymore and I’ve replaced all of my 10,000 comments. You can definitely tell there has been a massive brain drain. I still get a chuckle when occasionally people reply to my altered comments saying “aww darn that was actually the correct answer”. All my comments now point to federated communities and call out Reddits awful behavior.
Sites come on and enshitify and then people move on (I’m used to it) bit its just nice to know I might not have to do that here. It’s a little annoying to manage multiple accounts with Lemmy/piefed but it also gives me a layer of redundancy. Reddit blocking mobile anonymous users has actually helped me a lot because I was hardcore addicted to reddit.
Yeah, if I want yoyo stuff, I have to go visit r\throwers.
Pretty much the same if I need mechanic info.
There isnt even an intactivism community here bruh!!!
Heck there isnt even LAUNDRY community on Lemmy!?! How yall existed for this long with no laundry community yall?!?
Lemmy never will be big enough without a change in thinking from the feudal nature to a more liberal democracy, alas.
Can you expand a bit? What do you mean “feudal nature” and “liberal democracy”? Do you mean society as a whole or Lemmy in general?
Yes I would be pleased to expand thank you for asking.
Lemmy is a mini reddit, moderators own the space, like a feudal lord. To take off, as an alternative to the feudal spaces of big social media, we need to offer a better alternative.
To that effect, a clear set of moderation rules would help, and for that set of rules to end in a jury trial of members.
But Lemmy is just software. Anyone can throw up an instance with whatever rules they want lol. So why not spin up your own instance with these rules and jury members?
What I don’t get with this federated software, Lemmy and Mastodon. It’s ripe for essentially, server level verification of identity. And I don’t mean check every ID of every user.
But like, this threat talks about game communities. Some larger company, Microsoft, maybe even Valve with Steam, could easily run an instance, and have “official” forums this way. Any anyone on any instance can subscribe and visit. But that way you know that like, I dunno, lame.microsoft/halo is the proper community for Halo. Sure, there may be others, but it can become the place of record with announcements etc.
Same for Mastodon stuff. But that would be more for individuals. But also stuff. Like you could have movie.studio/tom.cruise and it’s verification that it’s the proper Tom Cruise posting. That sort of thing.
Plus, smaller communities have less potential burden from a few large accounts loading the system down.
Etc.
Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining
Booo
You should start a community for those games. Or contribute to an existing one. Be the change
Assuming they have the energy and time to dedicate to it, alternatively they could just go to Reddit with minimal effort.
especially since I want to build my own community around my projects and interests, I won’t have time to manage 2 communities
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Unfortunately a good chunk of linux distro resources and troubleshooting, and also many hobby stuff is over there.
This one is surprising to me. If there’s one thing that Lemmy has a lot of, its Linux enthusiasts
Back to stackoverflow!
Yeah, and it’s worse the more niche. I have no idea if Lemmy has a Fortnite community or if it’s active, but I seriously doubt it has a /r/StarWarsDroidTycoon community (a Fortnite mode), which is what I care about. Or /r/FortniteLeaks
Or a specific gamepad brand sub that might have some info for a problem i face, or 3ds hacking resource. Reddit win in this because they have years of discussion on the specific subject.
Seems like most people don’t really care about or understand stuff like “private platforms enshittify”. Certainly not enough to be inconvenienced. People will be like “that’s where the good memes are” or “that’s where my video games post”. Heavens forbid you miss the hot memes.
I think the issue is also related to how Reddit makes money. Reddit makes money from selling advertisement. I would guess they are charging a certain fee based off subreddit activity the ads are shown in. When most of that Reddit activity is bots and fake clicks on advertisement then the company won’t see the return on their investment because they thought a million people would see their ad but only 100k real people actually saw it.
You guys see ads on reddit? I laugh in ublock
the problem with uBlock there is thst sometimes on reddit they post like ‘Advertisement Posts’ …Like actual posts that are not about that niche community in anyway but are nothing more than an advertisement for a comoany and uBlack obviously cant block that.
Ive seen it a few times in the past but its been like 4 years since Ive been on reddit so I dont know if theyve stopped doing that.
I’m banned
Permanently
You are banned for this comment which you can’t see
Bastards!
they never ever did anything to propaganda bots at least not recently, and since trumps 2nd win in the WH it was clear they were banning.
Reddit at one point filtered millions of bots monthly and transparently filed public reports on the actions they had taken, even citing the source of these bot networks if a notable number of them came from places like Russia, China, Myanmar, etc.
That was a long ass time ago, though. Before they killed off the free API access in 2022, and the 3rd party apps and accessibility layers with it.
I use Red Reader to look at reddit for a few specific subs but I prefer hanging out here.
ublockorigin prevents those fake posts from my screen.
Reddit is slowly dying. It will eventually be 100% bots.
When I left Reddit years ago I was already convinced than more than half the accounts were bots.
During the exodus, it felt like 20-30%
Anything with an even mildly AI-adjacent topic is a solid 75% bots right now…
/r/nvidia, /r/amd, /r/hardware, etc, etc…
the “meat” is where all the propaganda can target like the front page subs.
Absolutely. Frontpage stuff like /r/politics has been mostly bots & trolls farms since well-before the AIpocalypse. AI just took much of the burden off the human hand on that rudder.
thats whats FB has become.
FB is really garbage.
I want to believe. But X (formerly known as Twitter) and Facebook are still there. It may be a long death which is indistinguishable from (low-quality) life.
I’d like to believe it is but I also know that the majority of people online do not give a damn about user experience and things getting shittier. I do not understand these people, but its because of them this shit is still happening. If they all left sites like reddit there’d be no incentive to become shittier and shittier.
Not trying to shift blame though, in the first place its companies like reddit even coming up with strategy who are to blame.
I was chased out by admin in 2024, after a long line of accounts were violated for abuses that were falsely alleged. Because Israel I suspect.
See my Reddit alternative: Zyke Design was inspired by piefed. Had 3k hits last month
Ok…? This is such an odd comment, it’s like you’re not aware of lemmy and piefed etc. being alternatives while using one of them.
because of AI bots
We all know they really were just looking for any excuse
They’ll still allow AI bots. Only the ones they authorize though. Without them their paying customers will realize how many people have left.
It’s technically true. They want those bots to pay for that access.
They killed access to old Reddit without an account a couple months ago. Also i saw some people can’t access the new one without an account but i guess they are rolling out that one slowly.
They’re making the website viewable only with an account.
Sooo Reddit is doing this to get rid of bots… except the only users they have left are bots… weird.
Their automated filters seem to be designed to ban people and leave bots. 🤭
That feeling when you get banned from a community cause you typed in “Im a Black man” and the auto mod banned you for the world “Black”…
spammer bots, and propaganda bots, utilizing AI posting or using hundreds of account at once by 1 entity.
Because israel primaralily, but now expanded to protect all power players, because fuck you (me especially,) that’s why.
They own those bots though most likely.
Just like the same endless crap keeps showing up on my meta feeds from bot accounts because it gains traction
they also allow propaganda bots from russia, israel , and palantir to run free to astroturf comments.
I know we all collectively hate Reddit here - no sarcasm on my end -, but I hate to think what it’s gonna be like 10 years from now.
The sheer amount of good information I’ve obtained from Reddit over these last 15 years: mental, physical health, nutrition, tech, jobs… all for free, as it should be! It’s insane when you think about it.
Imagining a world where I’ll have to get charged to search every little thing, and yet get biased information due to ads and marketing… All of this sucks so much.
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.
Never forget what made sites like Reddit popular in the first place. That can always be rebuilt. Reddit can die without it meaning we have to give up what Reddit was.
If only there was some site like Reddit but not centrally controlled by a corporation.
Hmmm yeah. I know! FARK
You always have something like Lemmy & Discuit.
Ofc, I was being silly when I said that seeing as we are on Lemmy.
The information will still be there as long as they don’t remove entire posts by users who have deleted their user names and keep an archive going.
Someone should be making a reddit archive site. Like an exact read-only clone to retain all the information people have access to before they remove it all to accommodate Ai on their servers.
It’s useless if you can’t access it without an account, though, and they’re banning accounts left, right and centre over the stupidest reasons.
i would avoid anything related to current events, politics or news, thats where the bans are. im on solely niche topics after a year ago i got banned, made a new account recently and only ask question in a very niche sub.
I am not prepared to make a new account, because fuck Reddit. If you try to browse without one, you immediately get a popup telling you to log in or create an account, so I don’t even do that any more.
The majority of its value is in currency, meaning current. The historical value is present too, but it’s but a drop in the ocean relatively. If everyone left Reddit, Reddit would very soon cease to exist. Wherever everyone went, they took the value with them.
I just realized the redundancy in my comment 🤦♂️
being a news and niche topic aggregate site helped it becoming big. because all the other forums either died or declined, or were too hard to ask a question in.
Never forget what made sites like Reddit popular in the first place.
you mean r/jailbait?
The one Spez was a moderator on? That one?
Numerous subjects & communities of subreddits is why. There’s Public Freakouts, News, Video Games, Health, Television, etc.
Ending the public API also prevents reddit users from deleting their post history without manually removing each post.
If you want to scrub your post history and prevent reddit from profiting from your input, use Power Delete Suite while you still can.
https://github.com/j0be/PowerDeleteSuite
It is unlikely that reddit allows users to delete their content from the backend but this at least keeps your posts out of search results, which is a large part of their value.
im using that powerdeletesuite, you can poison potential AI scraping by changing your comments.
Another option is connecting with vpn or talk bad about Trump and you’ll get shadow banned straight away.
I mean reddit was just the domain name where real people shared that info. The real people who want to share knowledge are still out there, just wont be on reddit much longer.
This. It was a golden age of information and community availability, and it’s going to be hard to put that back together. Especially since the prior eras of distributed sites, we had functioning search engines.
And yeah, sure, it can be rebuilt… but there’s going to be a long time of awful isolation until it is.
People said that about Digg 15 years ago.
Things come and go, people make solutions
Yeah, I also find a lot of my most useful and specific web searches take me to reddit. Unfortunately, I don’t see a solution. Hopefully a similar depth of information will start to accrue here, but if it happens it’ll happen slowly. And it’s hard to search.
I guess I will continue to hang out around here. There aren’t many places on the internet left for such a broad range of topics and conversations with real humans. The sad reality is that the specialist forums are dying and being replaced by closed platforms and the large aggregators are getting shittier every day. The Fediverse seems like the only worthwhile investment of my time.
How are you guys gonna cope with this? What do you intend to do in the future I mean.
Books and that kind of stuff, for some of that. Most of the useful information on health, nutrition, sports and the like came from people because it came from books (that people read).
For the rest, hope that more people to community bootstrap.
People forget that before reddit became the default for this stuff, Quora and Yahoo Answers filled the same niche
Reddit bridged so many understanding gaps for me while i was in my early 20s things you could never talk about in real life. It was honest people talking in good faith. Now i look at the same places and they’re full of the worst info and worst takes.
That’s because the people that were willing to help you along have mostly left Reddit.
same thing here. certain job industry, which is worth getting into, how hard it is to apply,etc. and all the other subs. the least useful ones were politics and news. they had subs for people wanting to join the services, but could not find a place where they can discuss because it was originally concentrated in certain forums only.
got an appliance problem of a specific model, or electronic issue, the subs have it.
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I don’t hate Reddit, but it seemed to hate me and banned me for the most spurious reason.
They do seem to be making some baffling decisions against their own interests, though.
Stopped using and producing content for reddit a long time ago.
Long live Lemmy.
Next: reddit is killing its HTTP interface to stop AI bots
I’ve been wondering about something like this for years. Websites have been aggressively enshittifying for a long time now. Everything defends against accessing their content via any unapproved means. Getting a full resolution image from anywhere via image search becomes more difficult every day. If a search engine lands you on a site, the site deliberately withholds the content that brought you there and dangles the carrot to keep you using the site for as long as possible, always making sure you fall just short of what you’re after so you keep looking. Most links that you share directly from your URL bar are littered with telemetry data so that unless you first sanitize the link, sharing it on social media means that now the site is able to link your session to the account that shared the link and map your social connections on platforms they don’t even own.
I have a foreboding of a future internet where everything, even the structure of URLs themselves is obscured behind a layer that is opaque to the end user. People will be completely locked in to only using the site in an approved manner from an active account in “good standing” with the platform. You can use the site as normal as long as you’re logged in, but the URL itself would only ever be something like website.com/sU6ecjejfE32Jy7w94. You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can’t view the content without logging in, and even if they don’t log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means. The more websites adopt this model, the more user-mapping takes place until eventually anonymity on the internet is completely dead. Every single site knows exactly who everyone is and every social connection that they have. Everyone who refuses to submit to this new paradigm is blocked from accessing the site at all, yet they are still mapped all the same. Making a new website that’s this restrictive would probably mean that it never gets off the ground, but making that change on a platform where users are already dependent and tolerating increasing levels of enshittification just might work. If one major platform pulls it off, others will follow.
The world wide web a legacy platform at this point. It’s treated as such by both the tech industry and average people. Most people use social media through apps. All the government organizations and banks are consolidating their services to apps. Nobody makes their own websites anymore.
The reality hasn’t sunk in yet for the rest of us, but it’s happening. We assumed it would be a forever thing once it was created. It turns out the world wide web is going to be brief historical period at the turn of the century that you tell your grandkids about.
Maybe some day the PC will go back to being a novelty appliance found in few living rooms. Where you have to power it up, sign on, and browse the few handful of websites in existence. When you’re done, you turn it off and go about your day again.
apps are so much more terrible to use than the browser, much more limited ui and features. like your bank and healthcare apps is so not intuitive.
You could share that link as normal and people could click it and be directed to the thing you want to share, but they can’t view the content without logging in, and even if they don’t log in, the mere fact that they clicked it still links the two of you together in the user map. Nothing ever escapes the sandbox and nobody is able to share content from the site unless they accessed it from approved means, and they can only share it to others who are also using approved means.
Me: [presses PrntScrn, shares the result of that]
This seems likely? I’ve had several services that I used to use, which deprecated their website in favour of their app 🤮
I mean yeah they literally will and force everyone onto the app.
the APP gives them more data, like your components, and whatever else they are getting on your phone.
How sad that Aaron Swartz was there for the creation of RSS and Reddit. Like spitting on his grave by removing access to data and putting up walls.
only to have the alien hybrid spez to thirst for musk and destroy reddit.
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and people who buy ads on Reddit thinking it’s going to get a certain amount of views but they don’t know most of those views are bots until after they paid for the ads. Then they have to prove to Reddit they were tricked and good luck with that unless your a corporation Reddit wants to have a good relationship with.
reddit also wants GENUINE human generated content, not AI-generated posts or comments that poisons thier data, thats why the forced logins. im in another forum where the spammers, have to "make genuine’ content to evade thier spam/bot filters.
They even banned /r/Lemmy. The nerve lol
on what grounds? Thats insane to ban a community just because its a competitor.
No idea, just think it’s hilarious. Just checked and yep…
Doesn’t suprrise me. Spez is such a fucking snowflake.
Yah he reminds me of a weasel for some reason 🤔
Not the first time, there have been many migrations and the ban the sites that gain traction against Reddit.
kinda obvious, they dont want competition, and people to jump ship.
Did they ever need a reason?
I posted on a food sub, saying "that looks incredible* something innocuous like that.
Bot removes my post, contact mode team because I cannot quite believe what I read. Auto mod, (cannot believe it was a human), tells me the same thing. Reddit has profiled me as being disruptive & I can post once I have “improved my standing”
Things like this are a red rag to me, always have been. Anyway, the food sub is muted, & reddit can get fucked, I’ll post my opinions whether any bot likes it or not till I’m inevitably banned for failure to “conform” to their disgusting agenda.
I was in a discussion on the post election political situation in Sweden right now and from nowhere my five year old account got flagged as “suspicious” and locked until verified. For whatever reason it refused to hit me with CAPTCHA and the likes. I had no email registered previously and could not verify. I tried a couple of temp email but got no verification sent there. So I registered a throw away at a legitimate email provider and changed it there. Nothing there either.
But I also have mods and at least one admin that doesn’t like me from long ago because I make fun of Nazis. So maybe I am “suspicious”.
There is something new they’re doing. They say you’re a bot, or are spamming, this seems a catch all to shadow ban people anyone that says anything the admin considers contrary to the reddit agenda. You could try contacting the site mods…I got a “bot” ban lifted that way once.
on the shadowban sub, the only way you can actually post every 10minutes, most people dont get a response on why they get banned or thier appeals heard.
I had a very similar experience. I had a reddit account from before they required email addresses. It got flagged as “suspicious”, it forced me to reset the password in order to continue, and the password reset required me to provide an email address, which I refused to do. I asked an AI agent what might have caused the flag. At the moment my account got flagged, I was arguing on reddit with some pro-China people, and I was posting links to the genocide of the Uyghurs. The agent told me that hackers probably made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account and this triggered the flag. Sounds like something similar could have been done to you by people who opposed your political views.
i wonder if reddit accounts to get stolen,.
I wondered the same. As far as I can tell, in my case, hackers (presumably pro-China activists) simply made multiple failed attempts to log in to my account. They probably had no chance of getting access, but they knew that it would cause the account to be flagged. They probably did not know 1) that reddit did not have my email address, and 2) that reddit required that for a password reset, and 3) that I was not willing to provide it - so effectively they locked me out of my account.
that flagging your account as suspicious happened the moment i was using a different browser. its really mean they were already going to ban you.
Reddit has become unusable. It has moderaters that are censorious, sactimonious, petty and do not care about. free speech. Adverts are becoming unbearable and the riculous time limits drive me mad! The inane Avartars are imbecilic too.
Eventually, all these tech companies scale up to a size where they don’t have to give a shit about people anymore. They only care if you’re a celebrity or somehow manage to create a big PR show that they have to respond to. But at this point, regular people are just like blades of grass that will eventually get mowed down somehow and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Now it’s dead and time to move on.
Horribly accurate. I remember the good old days when imgur was to all intents & purposes a porn site, now it’s some sort of self help horror show where the appearance of a nipple is tantamount to a crime against humanity.
“platform decay” aka https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enshittification
on reddit, BILL gates was on the sites for a few years, and then he vanished around epstein getting arrested, hmm guessing epstein news was potentially going to out him too, thats why he stopped. even his “covid vaccine” philantropy was a vaneer of what he wanted.
now another celebrity, GARY sinise suddenly was on reddit alot, starting right before trumps 2nd election, suspicious i think not. providing military propaganda for conservatives on the site, he also seems like he acts as he was a vet himself. then on youtube saw his “im leaving hollywood” interview, he said it was his SON that was the cause, but im thinking the winds were changing and his republican whom he announced publically on election year was going to cause him to lose roles in hollywood. hes has a wierd obsession with vets.
large subs are too infested with moderation and bots.
It’s ridiculous. The bots ban and then they guard the mods (humans), who could review the case(-s). Support is pretty much non-existent.
A mild realization just hit me. Reddit used to come up in daily conversation, even with randos. Now when I mention it nobody even knows what it is, and those that do remember it… speak of it only as this vague place they used to go years ago. “Oh yeah I remember reddit”
E: fyi I’m talking roughly circa 2008-2013 when every last bricklayer, sewer technician, and 7-Eleven worker “found” the platform
The only time it comes up in conversations is because my buddy discovered reddit only like 3 years ago, when I had just moved to lemmy. He still sends me reddit links several times a week.
Then there is the tech support side, because name it and it’s been posted on reddit, usually with the solution, but now everybody just AI’s the shit out of that so that has become less relevant.
And that’s it. Everyone else that I knew that used reddit has moved on years ago.
Reddit never came up in daily conversation for me. It came up only occasionally, and it actually seemed to do so more often after it went public.
It was a weird coincidence
Extra hilarious because they just invested so much in ads to try and rope in every day people.
Really? Wow. I have no way of really knowing for sure but I am pretty convinced that they reached maximum saturation of their user base 10 years ago… That’s why there was this sudden whiplash pivot to forcing Indian, Pakistani, and the European content to the front page.
I saw that as the indicator that the North American market had been penetrated as far as they were going to penetrate, and they were looking abroad.
Now with what you’re telling me it’s making me question reality, I don’t think there’s a person on the planet that isn’t aware of reddit, I think people just don’t want to use it anymore!
Question, where have you noticed these advertisements?
They were on network TV over the holidays. My family has disney+ and they had ads when I went over their house. I also saw ads on YouTube. It was quite a bit so it was a strong push in advertising.
because of AI bots
because they want to charge people for the privilege to have their users data
Imagine thinking that a super intelligence is going to emerge from reading reddit comments.
Thanks for fixing it
because of AI bots
Is it because they want it to be only a.i. bots, because that seems to be where it’s heading by making it more and more hostile to humans.
I mean, “because of AI bots” is technically correct, but it’s more because they want to control the sale of their own users’ data rather than letting other bots scrape to sell.
That also means there’s a strong incentive for the remaining human users with two brain cells to rub together to not provide anything for the scraping bots to use. Certainly not for free.
hence the lurking.
