Why is it that warnings of what would happen weren’t taken seriously enough by Democrats to try to earn people’s votes? Voters warned them what would happen if they stuck to the same policies they had been running on. If the elites of the party are going to make all decisions for the rest of us, they can accept all the blame when they lose.
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As if Dems would do anything that could compromise their own power.
You can be gay and fight Hitler
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You’re advocating for respectability politics. We have to be nice to the people who hate us to try to convince them to be nice to us. If that’s the game you want to play, you can. But it certainly hasn’t achieved victory for anyone yet. You know what has achieved change? Protesting. Being loud. Telling people when they’re wrong. Not putting up with the bullshit.
You’re advocating for assimilation, while what we want is liberation.
Please tell me, as a trans nonbinary person, what the respectable version of “trans women are women” is?
That is not at all what they said and you should be fucking embarrassed. They were saying that electing gore in 2000 wouldn’t have (necessarily) prevented Putin from invading Ukraine. But I think you probably understand that. You’re just being a piece of shit.
But the dems make it so easy for them when they all endorse a genocide. “That guy’s the devil! He’d let his friends eat babies! What? No don’t worry about my friend eating babies. They didn’t do that, but if it was it was justified. And if it wasn’t, it was an accident. And if it wasn’t then it was justified.”
Demand better. From the outside. I’m not a Democrat. I can’t do anything from the inside. I vote for them because they are the closest, usually, to my beliefs. This time both parties feel equally, very far away from me. You’re not required to agree with me. You just can’t bully me into voting for someone who I find morally reprehensible.
Neither is “The other side is worse, guess the DNC gets to do whatever the fuck they want.” If I only have two choices, then I’m going to be loud and annoying when those choices aren’t acceptable to me. I don’t care what you say.
This argument would be fine if the DNC actually let people select progressive candidates. But they almost never do. The DNC is controlled by committee, not by democracy, ironically.
It’s not my only issue with Biden, but it is my biggest and the fact that it doesn’t even seem to register as a problem for you is very telling. You don’t care about anything that’s happening to anyone outside of the US huh? Your world is that small? Get a grip. We all draw our lines in the sand somewhere and when the line is crossed, that’s usually the thing we’re going to yell about. I think “I can work with you on anything other than genocide related crimes” is pretty fucking lenient, don’t you?
I mean, I do intend to withhold my vote from democrats who do not share my values, as should anyone who does not feel that democrats, or a specific democrat, represents their interests in government.
But what I was getting at is that for the last several elections democrats have asked voters to come out to stop the other guys from winning. And if all you care is make sure that things don’t get worse, then by all means vote for democrats. But they haven’t made things better. And that’s not even what their offering you. They are offering you exactly what you have right now. And I get it, no one wants the other guy to win, but that doesn’t motivate people as much as Dems want it to. If they were instead laying out progressive policy platforms, maybe people would be excited to vote for them. Then people like me, who are not represented by democrats but its as close as it gets I guess, might be able to stomach voting for them or at least not negatively impact their chances of winning.
You catch more flies with honey, as they say.
Oh no! I’m sure I’ll miss your inane false dichotomy,
How could trump be worse?what is worse than arming the Israelies while they engage in genocide? Unless you don’t believe that’s what is happening. In which case,you have been misinformed. Genocide is genocide. Why am I the asshole here for not wanting to vote for someone who is enabling a genocide? Why isn’t Biden the asshole for enabling the genocide or not stepping down?
I prefer Biden to get out of the race so someone who doesn’t support genocide can step in and beat Trump. But apparently that option doesn’t exist in the sick, twisted little testicle you call a brain.
Okay… You’re going to have to do more to convince. I agree both of those things are true. I don’t want Biden to be the president for another 4 years because I think he’s bad for the country in other ways than Trump and he’s CURRENTLY ENABLING A GENOCIDE. But sure. Dems shouldn’t have to earn our votes. Blue no matter who. Even if their pro-life, pro-genocide, and pro taking corporate money.
Okay. But Palestine still gonna be fucked. I get that you don’t care if Palestinians die. But I do. So I get to not vote for the guy currently enabling their genocide. “Trump would do it too” so you admit it’s bad? Demand better from your politicians you weakling.
What if Dems gave us something to vote FOR instead. What a world that would be.
You don’t know how voted or what privileges I have and don’t have. But knowing that I’m a nonbinary tran person who voted for Kamala won’t change the fact that people don’t vote for candidates out of duty. That’s never been how people vote. So you can absolutely keep pretending that your position is noble and that it’s your fellow citizens who failed you, but at the end of the day, Democrats were running on a message that he was the worst thing possible, but weren’t willing to do everything possible to stop him. They had a responsibility to deliver policies that solved the problems people were encountering, to respond to their base when their base said “we don’t want to fund genocide”. Lying to people about the economy as those same people couldn’t afford the same amount of groceries anymore definitely hurt them. Allowing Republicans to scapegoat trans people and Kamala not even saying the word trans throughout the campaign, allowing the other side to control the messaging surrounding the issue isn’t likely to have earned them any votes.
But pointing these things out to Democratic cult members to yourself is tantamount to heresy because you’ve lost any iota of self reflection. You don’t care that Democrats are Republican-light. In fact, you probably think that’s a good thing.
Newsflash: the antidote to fascism is not liberalism. It is economic populalism. Democrats can’t afford to keep backing capitalism if they ever want to win again. Democrats got us into this mess, they aren’t the ones who were ever going to save us.