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  • @self
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    1210 months ago

    the very next paragraph:

    Self driving cars, ditto. Cruise’s fleet is finally deployed all around SF, according to pg. It’s about to become as ubiquitous as electricity. And in the beginning, so many people argued that it’s against the law and therefore shouldn’t be developed. Then it quietly shifted to well, maybe the law should change.

    it’s fun to watch self-described engineers tie themselves into knots to defend dangerous technology. this is why programmers aren’t allowed to design bridges (at least until we find a billionaire stupid enough to fund a bridgetech startup (and it’s probably going to be musk))

    • Steve
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      810 months ago

      They should all read Henry Petroski’s To Engineer Is Human before they call themselves engineers

      • @gerikson
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        610 months ago

        Shit, I have that book! Never read it though :(

        • Steve
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          610 months ago

          I’m afraid you can’t call yourself an engineer

          • @gerikson
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            810 months ago

            I (legally) can! Got the degree and everything.

            (“civilingenjör” is a protected term in Sweden, only graduates from technical universities can call themselves that)

            • Steve
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              510 months ago

              I didn’t know that! I was joking of course. I wonder if Alan Kay knows this, though. Have you seen this talk?

              https://youtu.be/D43PlUr1x_E

              • Steve
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                810 months ago

    • raktheundead
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      610 months ago

      I’ve argued for a while that software “engineers” regularly develop the equivalent of the First Tay Bridge.

      • @Evinceo
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        1010 months ago

        Wish we’d gone with software carpenter or software plumber.