• @zbyte64
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    34 months ago

    Hello fellow human. I also learn by having information shoveled to me without regard to my agency.

    • Sam Clemente
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      14 months ago

      @zbyte64 with everything you see you are scraping data from your environment whether you want to or not

      How does a child learn what pain is? How does a teenager learn what heartbreak is? It’s certainly not because they made the decision to find that out themselves

      • @zbyte64
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        44 months ago

        I bring up agency and I get an exemplary response what I mean.

        Raising a child well requires someone who is able to engage in the child’s own theory of mind. If you just treat a child as an information sponge they will need more therapy than usual. A good parent takes interest in their child’s ability to exercise agency.

          • @zbyte64
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            4 months ago

            Then I guess my original point of agency being an essential element in human learning had nothing to do with your conversation about how AI learns like humans. Carry on.

              • @zbyte64
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                24 months ago

                I’m literally saying (an aspect of) process matters, how are we saying the same thing?

                • Sam Clemente
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                  14 months ago

                  @zbyte64 from what I understand, you’re referring to the process at scale—the amount of information the AI can take in is inhuman—which I’m not disagreeing with

                  None of which is relevant to my original point: the scale of their operations, which has already been used countless times in copyright law

                  The scale at which they operate and their intention to profit is the basis for their infringement, how they’re doing it would be largely irrelevant in a copyright case, is my point

                  • @zbyte64
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                    4 months ago

                    I don’t understand how when I say “agency” or “an aspect of the process” one would think I’m talking about the volume of information and not the quality.

      • Sam Clemente
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        14 months ago

        @zbyte64 a lot of my writing style is influenced from reading Rick Riordan, my blog posts are stylistically influenced by The Verge, my composing has been said to remind people of Hans Zimmer

        Do I owe them money every time I create simply because they influenced my creativity? No.

        If I use their work for profit, THAT’S when they need to be paid and that’s why I’m saying OpenAI and other models are blatantly infringing on copyright

        Sorry for the nuance, I guess