Summary

Many Democrats, especially women, expressed disillusionment and frustration online, viewing the result as a reflection of deep-seated misogyny in the U.S.

Harris supporters highlighted anger that a “felony convicted, twice-impeached” Trump prevailed over a female candidate.

Comparisons to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 loss resurfaced, with many attributing Trump’s win to targeted appeals to young men, including appearances with influencers like Joe Rogan.

The election outcome has intensified concerns over growing right-wing radicalization among young men.

  • @grue@lemmy.world
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    5818 days ago

    It’s really beyond time for this sort of disinformation to fuck off.

    Harris lost because she’s a neoliberal, full stop. Scapegoating it as sexism means you learned fucking nothing and will only keep losing.

    • @PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world
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      1318 days ago

      Completely agree, but I’ve been seeing so many similar sentiments on Lemmy since the election. Today I saw someone comment, almost word for word, that there was no problem with Kamala’s campaign - the issue was simply that Americans are too stupid. Someone else on a totally different post commented that this election proves the Dems could run Jesus Christ himself and half the country would still reject him. And those are just two examples. This is one of more unhinged meltdowns I’ve ever seen.

      • @emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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        817 days ago

        I get the anger from dems against those who didn’t vote but honestly that’s more on the democratic party for not putting forward a candidate that earned those votes than anything else. Neither candidate is “entitled” to votes, just because the other candidate is abhorrent. I do think things will get considerably worse now and that’ll hopefully teach those who didn’t vote that yes that can happen and they should vote but the decision not to isn’t on the electorate, it’s the party that felt like they deserved votes they didn’t earn.

        • sepi
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          17 days ago

          Dem party has no obligation to court voters that won’t show up. Dems should not even bother with that segment ever again. This is why Dems were trying to convert more centrist republicans that do know how to show up and vote.

          • @emax_gomax@lemmy.world
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            216 days ago

            That’s stupid. People won’t show up tp vote for a party that doesn’t represent their values and the dems aren’t just entitled to votes because trump is the opponent. You can’t win an election on just “the other guy is worse”. You need policies that galvanise your voter base and actually makes a difference in their lives so they don’t feel voting for either party is a waste of time. Objectively trump is worse but it’s on the dems to convince the voters of that and they failed horribly.

      • @Vent@lemm.ee
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        1618 days ago

        Dems could run Jesus Christ himself and half the country would still reject him

        I mean, that is undeniably true, but we’ve known that for a lot longer than two days.

          • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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            117 days ago

            they are a problem, but terrible people will be terrible and nothing will change that.

            20 million voters figuratively said, “no, fuck you we want nothing to do with this system.” even though they are literally a part of the system.

            it’s like negotiating with a toddler. ˢᵐᵃˡˡ world view with BIG ambitions.

            • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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              117 days ago

              Half of the reason government exists is to stop terrible people from being terrible. Religion is supposed to reign in the terrible people too, American Evangelicalism just creates terrible people.

              • @GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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                217 days ago

                yeah… Government exists to control the society. They say the government is the will of the people, but that’s been a lie historically for many, many, many years.

                Religion is the antithesis of government. Religion is meant to control the will of the people. to direct it and hone it to a fine point.

                Historically, if you look at the impact that religion had on systems of government, you can see that there’s definitely a negative impact where one becomes weaker.

                The point being, both systems of government and religion are tools in which to control the fate of man. The reason why American Evangelicalism creates terrible people is because there are terrible people leading American Evangelicals.

                And the reason why the American system of government supports terrible people is because it was modified to support terrible people. The same terrible people leading American evangelicals.

                If we had any hope in making impactful change, it would have started with education.

                Now, my fear is it’s too late for education. And what comes next will be horrific.

                • @ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world
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                  217 days ago

                  I think we definitely are in agreement here. My one quibble is I don’t know that religion is the antithesis of government so much as a more primitive form of government. The earliest religions were a form of law enforcement in world without police or judicial systems.

                  If it’s just you and someone else alone in the wilderness, why shouldn’t you just kill them and take their stuff? There are no consequences. Religion adds the consequences. “God will punish you. You’ll burn in Hell/Hades/Tartarus.” Why shouldn’t I steal? “It’s a sin.” Why shouldn’t I sleep with my neighbors wife? “It’s bad karma.” It’s all just laws enforced by a mythological father figure instead of a real guy with a gun.

      • @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
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        718 days ago

        Once all the smart, wealthy, moral, and ethical people flee the US that can flee the US do flee the US I’ll finally be able to get a job!

    • 4grams
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      Sure, go ask the average turnip voter if her neoliberal stances were why they voted for the rapist, 34 time convicted felon who cages children, is literally traded on the stock market and has nothing but praise for dictators, in fact who expressed his desire to be one multiple times on the campaign trail.

      You folks are so desperate to not blame the majority of people who chose to either vote for that, or were at least comfortable with him as their leader.