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    19 days ago

    The main product of SpaceX is corruption, they also have a side-business in rocketry.

    Tesla is a publicity stunt company that occasionally sells cars. It seems natural to merge the two.

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    Let me guess, a merger helps Musk hit profitability targets that adds another few hundred billion to his total compensation, while increasing his control?

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    What happens when he runs out if companies to merge and the whole house of cards comes down?

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    I believe American taxpayers should prepare to bail out the resulting company. Soon. With mountains of money.

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    SpaceX has been largely successful, despite Musk, because of Gwynne Shotwell. So Musk shoved X (which he led directly and was falling) into xAI (which was basically failing because it’s bad AI) and then shoved that into SpaceX.

    That didn’t fail, but Tesla (which Musk leads directly) is now failing, too. So hey, let’s do what worked before.

    Honestly, I’m surprised he hasn’t dumped The Boring Company on her yet.

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    I can’t wait to see what Elon can do for Tesla with the extra budget from rolling it into SpaceX.

    Imagine how many amazing new promises and forecasts can be made and broken.

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    Musks old tricks aren’t working like they used to and the walls are closing in on him for Tesla.

    The latest Roadster demo is a sign that he’s relying more and more on theatrics to sell cars. Ten years ago you could kind of buy that he would have full autonomous driving at some point. Other car companies are far more advanced than him and the Chinese’s are eating his lunch on electric vehicles and beating him in every market but the US.

    He pivoted Tesla to robotics and self driving taxis but other companies are ahead of him there as well and he knows it.

    He doesn’t have any tech to set Tesla apart and justify its grossly overpriced stock.

    He wants to roll it under Space X to ride the only two advantages he has left Starlink and Rockets.

    He knows the US government under any administration won’t let either of those two go belly up and wants to link them with his other failed or failing companies.

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      Probably also wants to merge it with Tesla to somehow trial space shuttle tech. I’m not sure how it relates but I think I read that somewhere before and it had real examples of how Tesla helped space x

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    I predicted this when they had all their cars flying and shit. Its an advertisment for spacex while distracting from the car that theyre half a decade late to releasing.

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    He has total control of SpaceX - he made it so “investors” have no ability to override any of his decisions.

    He doesn’t have full control over Tesla, because he’s not a majority shareholder, and the board can vote him out.

    He wants SpaceX to buy Tesla so he can have 100% control over all of it. I would place a pretty substantial bet that he buys Tesla with the same “non-voting” SpaceX shares that he sold to retail investors during the IPO.

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      I mean, he self funded it with something like 180 million dollars. He didnt have to take huge amounts of investors money before that 180 million was worth a shit ton more, and he had launch contracts with NASA to generate income.

      So he made it, by building a successful company with his own money and then getting investors to take a small % of his ownership and they were seemingly happy to do it

      Edit: really, this is every founders dream. Bringing in investors has so many strings attached and he was able to build something where he could significantly limit that. If you can bootstrap your business you’ll be better off in the long run.

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    Tesla and/or SpaceX/Grox are probably looking like Wile e. Coyote four strides past the cliff edge. Keep slamming companies together to hide the loss to earnings and make the stock value go up. Got to keep the trillionaire status and make sure he can leave someone else holding the bag.

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    The outlook of Tesla isn’t great, so it is a perfect fit for SpaceX+xAI. All the brand new models are burning trash heaps, there are two cash cow models increasingly aging, even with the face lifts. It makes sense to consolidate everything into one big grift conglomerate.

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      Grok uses Claude, isn’t even using it’s own model. They gave up on that, because any competent staff they hire, leaves. Elon will go into history as the greatest incinerator of economic structure ever. The Epstein-class will forever regret letting him join. And Epstein knew…how crazy is that?

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        I had not heard of that. I think to stay correct, that needs some qualification. They have given up to compete with Claude on coding, so for agentic stuff the “Grok Bot” is using also Claude Opus 5.5. Grok still is an option too.

        But yeah, it does sound like they are slowly giving up to compete at the very frontier.

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      Ketamine + Nazi != shareholder value

      GROK! Solve this in a way that makes me lex Luther, not a parody of him. Make no mistakes.