• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    It’s going to take multiple election cycles to achieve the replacement of the Dem leadership and purge the “consultants”, and if we ever get close to accomplishing that you bet your ass there will be political assassinations, and ultimately the party will self destruct rather than hand power over to real progressives.

    The Democratic Party IS a right-wing apparatus, they work in tandem with the Republicans to serve the rich, the ratchet effect is real.

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      You had me in the first half, I was just about to ask you to read some Rosa Luxembourg. Yeah, the democratic party cannot be reformed

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      The conservative democratic party has to hang on long enough to splinter the GOP, and then chase the MAGA people off to their own third-party. Get them registered and on the ballot in all 50 states and then swing the Democratic party as far left as you can reach. You’ll chase the conservative Democrats back to the now-maga-free GOP.

      Do it right, Maga is a permanent 20-25% minority party that spends its time in purity fights with the GOP 20-25%, while the worker-focused Democrats run the table through blue america at 50-60%. We can negotiate things like a union vs the GOP bosses, with MAGA trash screaming culture wars into the void.

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        Now is the time kick out the conservatives out of the democratic party. They can join the GOP where they belong.

        The democrats need to build on democratic socialism policies. It’s the only thing that has won them elections in the last 35 years. Pity they betrayed their voters each time and that is why the US got Trump.

        The overton window on the democrats have been pushing right for so long the GOP has nowhere to stand except on fascism.

        The approval ratings of the conservative democrats are even lower than Trump right now. Now is the time to get rid of them. Before January.

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          Congrats, you just lost the 2028 election.

          Keep voting with emotions like this and we’re never going to fucking win anything.

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    Second pic is me when I freaked out about the Gaza genocide

    My family kinda thought I was overreacting/focusing on the wrong thing, because they were more focused on October 7th itself

    Later they realized it’s a genocide which I’m glad about, though I never did hear that I was right all along

    Probably best if I just keep my mouth shut

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      Probably best if I just keep my mouth shut

      Nah, you did the right thing. You’ll know it all the way to your grave.
      Speaking up for marginalised people is a duty of those of us with less dire problems.

      Each person’s contribution may feel futile, meaningless, and insignificant but “no rain drop believes itself responsible for the flood” applies to positive things too.

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      Later they realized it’s a genocide which I’m glad about,

      I dont understand what you mean by this?

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    It sucks for neurodivergent people that see those patterns sooner than other people. Cassandra is my spirit animal.

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      If caring whether what I believe is true and being a less easy mark for peer pressure and local propaganda makes me neurodivergent,

      then neurodivergent hi-five I guess.

  • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    “woke is back! god is nonbinary! mandatory sex changes for everyone!” they say as they pass waves of anti-trans legislation in blue states

    and for the rest of the world, only the colours of the bombs will change. welcome to the new normal, same as the old normal

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      My understanding of AOC from discussing her with DSA people is that we’re kind of mixed on her being the candidate. Obviously she’s good on a lot of issues, but she’s also buckled on some important things like weapons for Israel. I doubt she’s a straight up Zionist, but we need to know that the person most visibly representing the movement is going to not back down on red line issues just for political expediency.

      I think I’d probably still vote for her personally over another neolib if she’s our best shot in the primary, but it would be nice if we could get someone a bit more principled/someone with more of a spine. We have two years to figure this out. Let’s not wait until it’s too late and have to settle. That said, it’s not gonna be easy. The criteria of a person born in the US, over the age of 35, with enough name recognition to plausibly run a national campaign, and wants to run while still being a principled leftist is gonna make it tough to find someone in time.

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        What she should do is turn herself over to HAMAS or some sort of palestinians peoples’ court.

        If we’re talking getting elected then I dont know. Its not like any of that shit matters as long as you have the machine behind you. The media was calling Biden the most progressive president since JFK and making Harris out to be some feminist POC activist. Hillary became the “most qualified candidate ever” on the back of a short career as a senator and a term as foreign secretary where she created open-air slave markets and laid the ground work for all the bullshit that’s making eggs so expensive now.
        Material reality does not matter when you have cultural hegemony.

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        Agreed. I’d be happy to vote for her as president. I just think shes still young and can do alot more good work in congress before being president and essentially retired after.

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    So are they going to try “actually americans hate free healthcare and love war, that’s why Gavin is the most electable” or “Gavin will be the most progressive president since FDR!!”

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      They’ve got some dipshit liberals in the rest of the country cheering for his damn tweets, convinced he’s their champion against Trump. The DNC will torpedo anyone else’s campaign to make way for their little princeling. The actual message doesn’t really matter.

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        It’s always like that. If they win it’s proof they don’t need the left, if they lose then it’s because leftists didn’t vote for them. All the blame, none of the credit.

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      Neera Tanden is already doing this, just isn’t naming Newsom specifically

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    Responding to second pic: Then when you try to tell them the next thing they still won’t listen to you.

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    Remember that whole voting thing everybody was excited about last week? Yeah so long as everybody keeps doing that and doesn’t vote for the chode we’ll be fine. If a majority votes for the chode… nothing we can do. But I have a feeling people are starting to listen to more progressive sources of news. I have hope.

    Edit: didn’t realize the instance i was on. Btw, voting only works if the population is informed. The US election last week had one of the most informed voting bases in American history. People are getting less and less of their news from corpo controlled MSM… Look what happened. They voted for their own interests instead of some concocted boogeyman.

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        The policies and murders you seemingly oppose are driven by people who would prefer you argue amongst yourself about who’s doing the better job of opposing. The people that hold the viewpoints you despise and have promoted the policies that you reference sent hundreds of millions of dollars to stop the rise of progressive thought through elections. Those people wouldn’t give away a single nickel unless they thought it was absolutely necessary. So the more you guys fight about affecting change through means other than elections, instead of trying to ensure that representatives who agree with you are put in power, the more those you seemingly oppose win.

        It’s easy to sit on your couch and complain. It’s hard to do the work and get people elected that agree with you. So my thoughts are this: people in the .ml community that have responded to my comment do more damage to their own apparent cause than good.

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          Thanks for the well written reply. Unfortunately I’m gonna go ahead and disagree. The faster America collapses the better off the rest of the planet and its inhabitants will be.

          You literally cannot stop yourselves from doing genocide, illegal wars, imperialism, and climate destruction. You have run out of chances to fix this, because you literally cannot fix this, lol.

          Death to America 🤗

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            The practical implication of your goal is that you want America to become even more fascist and unhinged. You would prefer that they degrade into supervillan levels of depravity as opposed to reforming themselves to become a more progressive influence in the world? That take is like standing naked on a field and screaming at the sun because you have a sunburn.

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              I don’t care what happens within your own borders when you’re literally genociding multiple countries at once, lol. You need to be sanctioned out of existence and balkanized by the rest of the world. And if that doesn’t work, you need to be put down militarily like Nazi Germany. The faster we all come to this conclusion, and its happening faster than ever, thanks to trumps mask off approach to the normal fascist actions of America, the better.

              You think the country founded on genocide, slavery, imperialism, and war can be a force for progressive good? You’ve had 250 years to figure it out buddy, and your experiment was a fucking resounding failure.

              Again, death to America ✌️.

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      DiDnT rEaLiZe ThE iNsTancE i WaS oN!!

      Every ShitLib who definitely knew which instance they were on, upon finding out that the commies know more about whatever subject is at hand than they do and it’s not even close.

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        Crimestop is all they have.
        You know, that succinct paragraph from their favourite propagandist fiction writer you can tell they never read because they only quote the slogans.

        I saw a comment under a "I’m new to Lemmy, " post that said watch out for the communists.

        Why? What are they going to do?
        Put a thought in your brain you can’t ignore or refute.

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          What are they going to do?
          Put a thought in your brain you can’t ignore or refute.

          A truly terrifying concept for the Lib mind

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      Astute observation citizen, it is just the one chode that is the issue. Now that you have done your civic duty of Participating In Democracy ™ go back to brunch, The Good Guys (C) are in control and the system is fixed

      Anyway Biden expanded ICEs budget and the concentration camps. More palestinians died under Biden. The Biden admin was preparing for the same war with Iran that Trumps admin is pursuing.

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        This assumes Voting ™ once every two years is in any way sufficient to change the system that is the fascist duopoly of the US.