• @eldavi@lemmy.ml
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        that website is very sus because it paints democrats who voted against gay marriage; supported anti-gay federal service members; voted for inescapable student loans; supported segregationists; etc. as only slightly more liberal than democrats that never did those things.

        i bet they either skewed the x axis or weighted some votes to get the graph to look like a continuum instead of a few distantly separated clouds.

  • @solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    the desperate mud slinging from the GOP is going to be hilarious. i’ll never forget when they tried to shit on AOC because she was caught gasp dancing in some student project music video.

    and god-fucking-forbid anyone ever tends bar for money

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    Should be noted that these kind of statistics are typically heavily influenced by the sheer number of garbage bills like what to rename a post office. Specific major issues is more the problem actual voters have.

    • @kofe@lemmy.world
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      If the stats lean closer to Bernie’s record than others (I’d have to do some research to see, but let’s assume) then it’s still more of an indication she’ll be better than the others she’s being compared to on major issues. Biden is on record saying he wouldn’t sign a bill for universal healthcare, but he’s still better than Trump overall.

      • Biden’s quote had a qualifying statement to that iirc. Something about without tax support?

        So it was technically saying he wouldn’t support paying for universal healthcare on credit.

        Buy, hey, he’ll pay for the Gaza genocide on credit, so who cares about the details?

    • @naught101@lemmy.world
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      Shouldn’t those garbage bills have basically the same votes from nearly all democrat senators? So they wouldn’t really affect the differences that much, right?

      • @argarath@lemmy.world
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        They would make the difference between them all small, thus allowing for everyone to look similar, exactly what this meme talks about

        • @naught101@lemmy.world
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          It’s not saying her voting is similar to Sanders, it’s saying her voting is MORE similar to Sanders than other senators. Those are two very different things.

    • @Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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      She’s a good person and a political pragmatist, who is willing to concede a point to gain ten. She has, like most intelligent adults, evolved farther and farther left to embrace reality.

      (While those in the the Wrong Wing cling to their assorted bigotries and boogiemen, as they lose all grip on sanity and embrace a venal madman as their Savior.)

      For what it’s worth, I’ve helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.

      • @NegativeInf@lemmy.world
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        Damn. A good customer in a retail setting. Now that’s how I know someone’s an actual good person. Having worked like 10 years of retail front line, that alone make me want to vote for her more. Lol.

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        For what it’s worth, I’ve helped her in a retail context and she was the good kind of customer.

        Not that I needed more reason than “let’s not have fascism”, but that’s a big endorsement to me.

        • @Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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          Yes, it was her job, and she did it effectively. She also fought against a measure allowing juveniles to be tried in adult court, but she lost that one.

          Let’s see, prosecutor or felon, prosecutor or felon, which should I vote for? (Remember, we’re not talking about a weed felony or stealing food for a starving family here.)

          I’ll take Kamala any day. And if Trump walked in the front door where I was working retail, I’d walk out the back.

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                I don’t think republicans are even using the excuse, they’re just doing it unabashedly

                Cops use the excuse though, I’m sure they will double down on it if their guy wins and the changes start to happen.

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              Talking about someone who doesn’t support the death penalty and Feinstein had the gall to call her out for it during a funeral.

    • @PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee
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      Not exactly secret, most of the stuff progressives find objectionable are basically just she had a job that progressives attach to systemic problems and didn’t throw her career away by not doing it to be a better progressive.

    • @lennybird@lemmy.world
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      Man I was so frustrated being called a “bernie bro” when more Bernie supporters turned out for Hillary Clinton, including me, than did Hillary Clinton supporters turn out for Barack Obama in 2008. I was tired when national head-to-head polling consistently showed Bernie Sanders outperforming Hillary against Donald Trump. Yet was shoved aside by the same sort of folks who insisted without merit that Biden should stay in the race. Quite literally some of the same people, including former Clinton strategists or the former DNC Chair, Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Even feminist leaders like Steinem and Albright claiming young women were just with Bernie because of the boys in a painfully ironic attack… It showed their true colors. The same bullshit patronizing platitudes. Alas, I am quite shocked Democrats actually organically adapted to new data. I’m honestly thrilled.

      Don’t get me wrong, I know there were trolls; I know there were astroturfers, and it got far worse in 2020. But anyone who actually went to a Bernie rally and conversed with real supporters knew that campaign was the most organic vibrant loving community since Obama’s first run, if not more so. Alas, we missed an opportunity.

      I would then go on to support Elizabeth Warren in 2020; I would ultimately then go on to vote for Biden.

      I am quite happy with her record matching Bernie. Seems like a good sign. I’ll be supporting Harris and I’m HOPING Mark Kelly as her running-mate.

      • KNova
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        Well said.

        Don’t get me wrong, I want to burn the Democratic Party to the ground for how they evaporated enthusiastic (mostly) young voters who were aligned with what Sanders was saying in 2016 and 2020. But I won’t allow fascism to be re-elected in my pursuit of that goal.

        • @Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org
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          South Park’s “Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich” thing is seemingly more right all the time.

          We got one dude who is a massive douchebag and then another party that’s one massive shit sandwich. Either we eat the shit sandwich and deal with the fallout after or we get to stare at a giant douche for four years.

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        HOPING Mark Kelly as her running-mate.

        Only foreign skin in the game here but I think he’d be a great choice. If America voted against a Harris / Kelly ticket in favour of the other two gobshites I’d have a total meltdown. I really like America. C’mon guys. Don’t let me down.

    • @nandeEbisu@lemmy.world
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      It’s a terrible message for trying to convert ex-republican independents. It’s not Trump’s welfare policies they object to.

      • @NoiseColor@startrek.website
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        Yes, that would make no sense for that. It would make total sense to energise the people. Democrats don’t need to convert anyone to win, they just need to get people to vote.

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          I think in swing states the numbers are close enough that you need to do both. Dems will vote if they’re afraid enough of Trump. It’s the undecideds they need to sway.

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    She isn’t very charismatic though, so it’ll be hard to win with her as the DNC primary