Former President Donald Trump urged members of a crowd in Florida to vote and said that if he wins, they “won’t have to vote anymore.”
Speaking at a Turning Point Action event in West Palm Beach on Friday, Trump, who tried to overturn the 2020 election he lost, delivered a cryptic message.
“And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
What the fuck is supposed to be cryptic about this? He’s making it perfectly clear that he wants to overthrow democracy in the US. And everybody who votes for him is OK with that.
People asked the question before. It went something like:
“You do realize that he’ll be a dictator, right?”
" We don’t care. He’ll be our dictator and that’s all that matters."
And then they’ll say they do it for freedom and democracy.
There’s another angle to the dictator thing-
A lot of people essentially think the president already is a dictator. That’s why even people on the left say things like, “why doesn’t Biden raise the minimum wage?!” when that requires an act of congress.
We need to bring back Schoolhouse Rock.
Considering how little help the English songs have been, I doubt that they were paying attention to I’m Just a Bill either.
It’s really not hard. The GOP wants as close to laissez-faire capitalism as they can get. This is not a popular position. To enact it anyway they need to go through deeply convoluted steps to retain support despite their primary demographic of religious voters being in steady decline. This pushes all the more sane types into the dem coalition, where we have to deal with progressive vs more modern neo-lib battles over the course of the nation, exacerbated by progressives in the base often refusing to recognize the moderates have a slim majority in overall population.
I’m not so good at the music side, so someone else can handle that part.
Ohhhh
🎶 Weee 🎶 areee 🎶 FUCKED, we’re fucked 🎶
Hmmm, could either go with four or five standard pop chords, or a few different rock power chords and pull it off. Won’t be too hard.
My favorite is “Why did Biden make shit so expensive!?” And all I can do is laugh, because my brain plays on a loop Biden sneaking around to all the stores swaping price tags and chuckling maniacally.
And then I get sad because these were people I once respected as “intelligent”…
I think it’s less “they think the position is already a dictator” and more “the general public has absolutely no idea how the office of the president works, or how the powers and limitations on various branches work in general” which is a failing of their education, and a poor reflection on the country as a whole.
Of course that’s exactly the way the republicunts like it, “keep the population dumb and they won’t even question why you’re oppressing them”
If your only experience with the president and their powers comes from (for millennial anyway) various crises (manufactured and non) where the president says “I’m signing this thing to do this” and because the vast majority of congress is behind them, as well as the regular) rest of the population, and it gets done (I’m thinking of things like Iraq), I can see someone thinking “well the president signed a paper, so it MUST happen”
Which is sad funny since I hear the minimum wage comment a lot, but like… How well do you think that will go? It will go just like the student loan bullshit.
And republicunts are such fucking insecure losers, they will happily drag the entire planet down into their bullshit to prevent even one single other person from getting help that they believe they’re entitled to the entirety of.
You know. Like Toddlers.
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Where did you get any indication from what I said that I thought it was okay? I’m talking about why people aren’t more concerned about it like they should be.
So many people are so het up, they come sprinting in, gagging to fight someone.
They need to just deep breathe twice and think a little, please.
Trump’s always been banking on everybody giving him the benefit of the doubt, and they do, but he thinks it’s because he’s so very clever that he’s tricking his opponents with his thinly veiled veneer of plausible deniability. In actuality they just do it because he’s rich.
To be fair, if they are doing it because he is rich, then he is indeed tricking them. Even with all the reasons why he should be rich; owning a bunch of buildings, rarely paying anyone that does anything for him, being born rich… he actually still isn’t. He’s so bad with money that despite all that, he’s overall in the hole most of the time. Which is why he so vehemently defends any financial info coming out about him. It’s a point of pride to him that people think he is rich.
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Or the more common answer:
“He misspoke and the media is taking out of context.”
Even though he has said it thirty different ways and this just happens to line up with the narrative.
And he kept a running mate who keeps saying it.
Both groups exist and both ignore that the other exists. Just like every “anti-woke” comment is made. Half of them say it’s about some made up nuanced take, while the other half say “no it’s really just racism/sexism/homophobia”. Which pretty much sums up what Hillary said back in 2016.
Those fuckers should be deported to some authoritarian shithole with Sharia law like Iran so they can appreciate what they’re throwing away because they’re terrified of “the gays”.
Same with the “migrants out” thing. If immigrants actually left, farmers and business would be desperate within days because all their hardest and/or cheapest workers just vanished and now there are no more truck drivers, no more field workers so crops left rotting on the field, no more waiters, … Prices of stuff would shoot up. UK tried this recently and that’s what happened.
“We want our dictator for… what are the good words again?”
“You mean freedom and democracy?”
“Yeah, whatever, for those!”
Many don’t think he can pull it off, which is the scary part that might let him do it.
“Oh, that’s all talk. He can say what he wants but can’t do shit without the House and Congress, and if he wanted to change things to get more terms? With states majority agreement that’s required? Not in his lifetime. You worry for nothing, PassingThrough, it’s all showmanship, as it always has been. And no, the Army wouldn’t help such an obvious fool overthrow the government either.”
It’s crazy.
“Oh, your drunk uncle Mike who has three arson convictions, thinks you turned the family against him, and is in your attached garage with gas and a lighter threatening to burn it down? Don’t worry about him, he’s harmless!”
Trump said it in a way that he could have meant that you won’t have to vote for him again. He kept saying “vote for me now and in 4 years you won’t have to vote again”. I’m sure if you made this criticism to Trump’s face he would act like you’re being unreasonable and pretend that of course he meant that he can only do 1 more 4 year term. Trump’s supporters would respond similarly. But that’s why it’s called a dog whistle, the message gets to the people he wants it to while it forces his detractors to debate what’s going on inside Trump’s head.
“In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”
Yikes.
I’m guessing it’s cryptic because he can just say that he meant “for me” and not “in general.”
“I love you, christians. I am a christian!”
Who the fuck talks like that? And who the fuck votes for a guy that talks like that?
Imagine how stupid the average person is, then realize half of all people are stupider than that.
- George Carlin
Median would be the more generally correct number to use, but apparently IQ (debatable as a proxy for intelligence…) is roughly normally distributed, so either is likely close enough.
Oh yeah, they normalize IQ every year, and 100 is always used as the median.
But thanks to the Flynn Effect, getting a 100 (the number they always choose for the middle) in 2024 means you’re significantly smarter than someone who got a 100 in 1990.
So when Carlin said, “think of a person with average intelligence” he was calling to mind (to his 1990 audience) a person who was average in 1990 but would score [EDIT: I originally said 70s to 80s, but I was off by a lot. Such a person would actually score right around 90 points] today.
This is what happens when you take the lead out of gasoline.
A person would only drop a couple points over time. 80s, and especially 70s, would be significantly impaired.
Yeah, I ended up looking up the actual Flynn effect numbers AFTER leaving my comment, and had to edit because I was way off.
The word average is used to signify mean, median or mode freely, depending only on context. For example, “he’s just an average Joe” is to say he’s like most other men in his demographic. In that case average means mode. In Carlin’s joke, average means median.
I read something that put conservatives into greater context, just changed one word.
“Imagine how stupid the average Republican is, then realize half of all republicans are stupider than that.”
These people who talk equally as phony.
Behold: a black person.
Too stupid to be satire, but also too stupid to not be satire. I am not sure with this one, chief.
If I recall correctly, he forgot to switch accounts before posting that one.
Quite a few of those on social media.
AND YET…
Poe’s law 2: conservative, satire, or bot
Hello my fellow human beings, I’m a human and love doing human activities.
Hello, fellow kids!
Christians, apparently.
When you’ve already lost the capacity for critical thought…
Millions of stupid Americans. They are everywhere! Even in your city, maybe even in your neighborhood.
Who talks like that? A grifter. A guy who literally embodies all of the seven deadly sins, trying to convince his followers that “he’s a Christian.” That is just exploding with irony.
Yes it’s like when I, too, enjoy human food like a real human
Trump using the language of a tyrant is not an accident. When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic, we’re saying that because of statements like this. Please get out there and vote this November.
Him saying it out loud is an accident. People with dementia often forget that they’re not supposed to say certain things out loud.
While that may be true, I also think it’s because he feels comfortable enough to say it out loud. These people and a fanatic third of the US are that far gone.
At this point we have found out that he can say or do anything and half the country will still support him. There is no convincing anymore for most of them.
We outnumber them we just need to get higher turnout and we win every time
Idk, the crowd was cheering for him. Think he just doesn’t have a grasp on what the average person thinks.
The people in the crowd have dementia, too.
He’s dumb. He forgot that other people could hear him, too.
When people say that democracy is on the line this election, we’re not being hyperbolic
The election system in the US has been under siege since the end of Jim Crow. The conservative response to the civil rights act has been to egalitarianize disenfranchisement.
We’ve had Republicans chipping away at the functional organs of democracy since Eisenhower’s Red Scare leveraged the Hoover FBI to infiltrate and eradicate self-sufficient communities and their unionized labor leadership back in the 50s.
Meanwhile, the Democrats’ leadership have never sat particularly well with the influx of minority voters following the Civil Rights Act. They’ve had to digest racist backlashes within their own party from the George Wallace Dixiecrat break away campaign under LBJ to the Hilary Clinton “birther” attacks launched at Obama during the '08 primary.
The end result is Republicans openly embracing fascism at the state and local level, while Democrats dissolve their own primary system in pursuit of a rigid corporate sponsored nomination process.
This isn’t something that’s going to be fixed in an election cycle. Trump losing won’t make Republicans less fascist. Kamala taking the nomination of the discarded carcass of an establishment insider like Biden won’t heal the divide in the Democratic Party. And it certainly won’t undo the fascist GOP takeovers in Texas, Florida, and Ohio.
We’re in for a rocky road ahead under either Presidency.
Perhaps making shady self-interested NGOs an integral part of our electoral system wasn’t such a good idea.
A.I. for President.
If our democracy is so fragile that it can be destroyed by voting for the wrong person, then we have to fix some shit.
It’s not just one person. There are years of hijacking that the republican party has done to the us system, like packing the supreme court. Those must be fixed as soon as possible.
Oh shaddup
Intriguing platform; tell me more.
oh yeah, so cryptic. gotta bust out my cryptography degree for this one. might need a couple quantum computers too. wow, the crypticity is at an all-time high. its over 8000, i tell ya.
Wait, I had the scouter on upside down.
In my eyes this is the actual scariest thing he’s ever said.
I mean it quite a good soundbite for any democratic ad for sure.
I seriously want to just scatter pictures of this quote all over town… don’t see how any Republican could be on board with this unless they actually want a dictatorship
Genuine national security threat.
What? Speaking to “Christians” and saying he’ll be god king emperor and/or he’ll help usher in the second coming…you know, Armageddon - the end of the world?
Nothing scary at all.
I’m not american, but I have a feeling this election is going to go into history.
Vote for Trump and he’ll turn it into dictatorship.
Vote for Harris and she’ll be the first woman president.
What will it be?
Not just the first woman president, but the first female mixed race president and the first to snap back when attacked in a long time. Trump is scared. He just went from saying “you don’t need to vote because we have plenty of votes” to “please vote so we can put an to end voting”
Edited to say first female mixed race since Obama was first mixed race
First Asian President
First South Asian President lol
I hope if Harris gets into office she will be more than just a token granted by the DNC to appease minority voters. We already saw Obama being a mediocre at best internally, and internationally brutal war criminal, president. Him being black did not make him a good president. And for Hillary Clinton the “she’s a women” trope failed catastrophically and brought us Trump in the first place.
Harris needs to convince with policy and character, not with race or gender.
EDIT: I did not mean that Harris would only convince with ther background. It is important to move past the tokenism approach that the DNC used to take.
She’s winning with policy and character so far.
So far, I don’t feel like she’s appeasing to minorities.
It’s more about replacing Biden and going against Trump.
RN is the time to do something cool so your name gets on the history test
Buttery mails 2: electric bugaloo
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If you’re a trump supporter, take a break on election day. He’s got it covered.
But not if you’re a Harris supporter.
No, Trump isn’t talking to you; don’t be lazy, vote!
This is as cryptic as saying “I will come to your house tonight and burn it down with everyone still in it.”
You will never need to worry about your house again!
You won’t have to worry about anything at all again.
Do you mean metaphorically?
Cryptically? This motherfucker is the most transparent asshole on the planet. He couldn’t convince a bucket of fish they were out of the water.
He plain and clearly said “if I win it will be the end of democracy”. There isn’t subtext.
I don’t have anything to add, I agree wholeheartedly, I just love that saying and somehow hadn’t heard it before
Oh thank you then it was off the cuff so that’s probably why haha
Your country is insane.
In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.
I hope for the sake of humanity that all the sane people in the US go out and tells everyone they know that cares about democracy and the rule of law what Trump is planning to do, especially in the swing states.
Our country is full of proudly ignorant bootlickers
Turns out all you need to do is make up some bullshit about “American dreams” and “bootstraps,” make them believe they too can (and probably already should!) be a billionaire, and the one thing stopping that are those goddamn Marxist Democrats and their “progressive taxation,” and “social safety nets for the blacks (please ignore the fact that I’m on disability, it’s different)”.
Republicans have been sabotaging our country’s own public education system for 25+ years at this point. Selling the future prosperity of our nation down the river for a voter-base with cult-like devotion, and a unique ability to ignore objective reality.
Unfortunately for the planet, it seems to have been wildly successful.
The next step is to do away with democracy altogether.
It’s been the Koch brothers and the John Birch Society’s dream (amongst others) to propagandize so many people of the “American Dream” and evils of anything other than capitalism. They were ecstatic when the Tea Party movement worked out for them, but they lost control of it with Trump. It’s a monster of their own making.
Kochs lost control of Trump to the JBS types. The Kochs are more Mitch McConnell type power brokers, all about the money and corporations. JBS is more MAGA, with the heavy undercurrent of conspiracy.
and evils of anything other than capitalism
*other than WHAT THEY CALL capitalism
They look at monopolies where the market leader buys laws, lobbies for protection and muscles competition out of the game unhindered and then they decry anybody calling it out as communists or socialists or the devil or whatever other bad word is en vogue that day.
You’re almost there, comrade…
It’s not just what they call it, this is capitalism working as intended. This is the end game. Always has been. It’s just now they have the tools to essentially brainwash millions using modern tech, and a wealth disparity that has been growing constantly for what, 100 years now?
That’s why it seems different this time; they learned from past attempts. Not only can you just make them not revolt (or shit, why not just Orwell it up and make it so they don’t even think they want to), you can direct that hate, anger and vitriol at your “enemies” to sow more chaos and division.
I don’t think any of the people responsible for planning and carrying out this decades-long coup could have predicted it would be this wildly successful.
It’s like Putin tossing a million bucks to a state sponsored hacker group (because meh why not, what could it hurt?), and ending up with a fucking Manchurian candidate and an army of loyal GOP politicians terrified enough of what might leak from those hacked emails that they are literally willing to destroy their own country from the inside. Unreal.
Oh, this system is definitely doing what it’s designed to do, but “capitalism” nominally is this fair competition among equal players where the market decides which ideas and products rise to the top based on merit and whatnot. This would, however, require a level playing field which goes out of the window the moment the strongest player on the market uses their power not to provide the best products and services, but instead uses their power to solidify their top position by legal or illegal means or in ways they make legal by lobbying, bribing and otherwise convincing the legislative. The moment the biggest corporations secure themselves the cooperation of the political parties for one-sided tax cuts, bailouts, deregulation of limits and massive regulation in favour of the corporations’ goals, that is the moment where we’ve left this impossible ideal of capitalism far behind.
But yes, the monopolies reigning from the corpse of the capitalist idea while telling you that capitalism is alive and well have worked hard to shape the status quo to what it is and they are definitely pretending that this abomination perfectly encapsulates the unreachable purity of the perfectly fair notion of “capitalism” every chance they get.
Exactly - I started noticing prideful ignorance in the early 2010s. People around me made bad choices and would not be corrected. Their ignorance was just as valid as someone else’s actual knowledge. That’s when, strengthened by their own baseless pride, their shame disappeared. I’m not saying shame is good, but when it’s the only thing keeping the deplorables in check, maybe a little of it helps.
It used to be that I’m general, horrible people realised they were horrible and at least went through the motions of being decent. They were like cockroaches scurrying for the shadows when you turned on the light. Now they’re like a cat peeing on your bed - they pause long enough to lock eyes with you, then continue peeing.
Speaking optimistically, at least now we know exactly who they are.
It’s wild that all it took was one sick, deranged, racist, liar (who hasn’t been able to string together a coherent sentence since the early 90s) to lead by example…
The GOP have been selling these people hope and magic since Reagan. It’s no longer about hard work for republicans, now all they have to do is destroy cities and kick out everyone they don’t like, and we will return to the magic that never existed in the 1950’s.
I hate to break it to you, but it’s not just our country.
It may be the most successful example of indoctrination of parts of the populace of a supposedly developed nation by the ruling class though.
It’s a smashing success for regulatory capture of the courts so that unlimited funds, foreign and domestic, can be legally spent on propaganda targeting fear-addicted racists.
in any other democratic nation, he would have been finished in 2015, when the “grab’em by the pussy” tape came out
but no, it’s 2024 and we STILL have to waste time arguing about drag queens and library books
To this day, I will never know how it didn’t end the moment he made fun of that photographer who had the deformity on his arm.
the list of things that should have ended trump is too long for any comment, so here https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/donald-trump-worst-president-ever
It’s because the country has a long history of treating disabled people like shit. This country literally gave the germans the inspiration to do eugenics shit.
In any other democratic nation in the world, a politician saying this would be finished.
Unfortunately not anymore, no. Bolsonaro (luckily voted out) and Orban and the Polish potato (also luckily voted out) have been spouting similar bullshit for 10+ years. Also, Erdoğan talks bullshit like that.
All of them a little less incoherent than the fat orange turd, but still, they say this kind of bullshit.
There’s nothing subtle about Trump. So when he say something blatantly stupid and evil, it doesn’t need translation or interpretation. If he says, “we’re going to ‘fix’ voting so that you’ll never have to worry about voting ever again” there only ONE way to interpret that. Believe people when they show you what they really are.
It also doesn’t help that our mainstream, “liberal news media” (you know, the one that’s owned by only six corporations) is constantly running interference for Trump.
Chaos gets views… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Too all the Trump supporters, if you want, you can stop voting now. No, seriously, it is a hassle. Stay home, the rest if us can handle it.
In four years, you don’t have to vote again.
Man, I thought it was just a misquote, but he kept going and getting more specific.
Wow so cryptic I wonder what he could be implying
He’s a riddle wrapped in an enigma…
Wrapped in a used diaper
And then deep fried to a golden…orange.
“I think I’m much more cryptic than you would understand” - Trump
That is not cryptic. He’s saying the quiet part out loud.
