I had an account on lemmy.one and now the instance has been down for a day or two so I made this new account. I also heard other small instances are dead or disappeared.

So which ones do you think will actually stick around for a long time?

ALSO, does anyone know how to get my subscriptions from lemmy.one and import it here? TIA!

  • kglitch
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    82 years ago

    Instances with

    more than one admin
    clear policies and active moderation
    engaged user base
    regular backups
    no porn

    …will stand a better chance than most.

    • Polar
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      12 years ago

      No porn? Why?

      .ca allows porn. You actually have to click “show NSFW” during sign up if you want to see it, so it’s not on by default, and it’s very easy to turn on/off if you want it.

      I find that the instances that ban porn also ban a lot of other stuff that isn’t bad. Feels like I’m in church and everything is being censored.

      • kglitch
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        12 years ago

        Surely keeping the csam out means someone on every nsfw instance needs to look at a whooole lotta porn, including sick stuff they really really don’t want to see. For no pay. I can’t see a way for that to last long so either an instance bans porn or stops moderating and gets defederated.

  • Cyber Yuki
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    82 years ago

    Don’t think this is a strange phenomenon or that it’s permanent. I’ve seen Mastodon (and Pleroma and Misskey etc) instances get born and die regularly. This is because it’s easy to set up an instance but it’s also easy to fall in an economic problem or just give up.

    Not everyone is ready to set up their own instance; it requires dedication and resources.

    • Amju Wolf
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      52 years ago

      The fediverse really needs some kind of universal login and a way to easily migrate accounts between instances.

      • @Blackmist@feddit.uk
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        42 years ago

        Not so much migrate as be able to use it from anywhere and have it replicated. Same with communities.

        Give things a unique ID, and access it from anywhere, even if the original server goes away.

        This kind of thing may not be possible with current ActivityPub protocols, but there’s always room for improvement.

      • @Gamey@lemmy.world
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        22 years ago

        The universal login is a very old suggestion but it’srealluy hard to pull off because that would have to be build into the core of the protocol. About the migration, that’s a Lemmy issue, not a general Fediverse one

        • Amju Wolf
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          32 years ago

          Not really; login mechanisms are a separate thing. OAuth already exists. You only need Fediverse software to accept OAuth from anywhere and to provide it to others.

          The migration part is IMO harder, but not necessarily by much. I don’t know of any fediverse software that’d allow it though.

          • @Gamey@lemmy.world
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            22 years ago

            What I mean with “universal login” is one account for multiple Fediverse services, I guess that wasn’t clear from my post. Yea, proper migration is hard and questionable if we should even allow it (could cause all kinds of issues, espwcially regarding account security) but Mastodon allows you to move your followers and add a redirect which is the most important part of the account and Lemmy should probably try to do something similar with ranks and communities.

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
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    I guess instances run by SDF. They’ve been around since 1987 when they started with BBS. And since 1991 they are running the public access UNIX system. They also have Mastodon servers, Minecraft server and other stuff. These are their Lemmy instances:

    lemmy.sdf.org - somewhere in US
    lemmy.sdfeu.org - Falkenstein, Vogtland, Germany
    lemmy.sdfjp.org - Tokyo, Japan
    lemmy.sdfcn.org - Hong Kong
    lemmy.sdfin.org - Mumbai, India

  • Philip
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    12 years ago

    I have hosted a lot of my own services for a couple of years and plan to continue hosting my instance(endlesstalk.org) indefinitely, unless something very major happens.

    As others have mentioned I think multiple admins and backups(hard to verify though) are a good sign, but its only indications and you can’t really be sure, if a instance will be there forever. I think there needs to be an easy way to migrate accounts and then the instances going down hopefully gives a notice, so you can move your account.

    Gonna be difficult to recover accounts from instance going down without a notice I think. You could regularly take a backup of your account, but that is tedious and you will still lose some data.

    • paraphrand
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      02 years ago

      Can you upload your comment history to a new instance? Does that question even make sense? I’m not sure what backing up means, I guess. Just an archive?

      • Philip
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        22 years ago

        There are tools that can backup and migrate communities, blocks and settings like lasim for a user. So you can migrate between instances.

        As far as I know, there aren’t any tools that can migrate comment history and I think anything that could do that, would need to be backed into lemmy itself(Which it isn’t currently).

  • hitagi
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    12 years ago

    I plan to keep running this instance for a long time. As long as there are weebs here on Lemmy, I will give them a home lol

    Btw, I also had a lemmy.one account. It was my first Lemmy account too. Hope they get back up and running.

  • million
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    12 years ago

    Out of the loop, what happened to Lemmy.one?

  • @Anafroj@sh.itjust.works
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    Not to sound too pessimistic, but we live in a time where we see Twitter collapsing, despite being one of those “too big to fail” websites. My bet is that none will stand the test of time, the web is ephemeral (and archive.org is an underappreciated wonder of the world). I would rather say that what you really need is a backup routine.

    • SoNick
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      12 years ago

      On one hand, a Sonic hacking forum I’ve been a part of since before its current forum software has been running the same database since 2003, on the other hand I fully acknowledge that it’s the exception and not the rule.

  • @Bosa@lemmy.ml
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    12 years ago

    No one really knows but I’d imagine the bigger ones the you see now like world ml kbin and others would stick around.

  • Resol van Lemmy
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    12 years ago

    I kinda hope transferring data between two accounts on two different instances is easy. I don’t really want a fresh start for the 13th time (this happened years ago outside of the fediverse, mostly thanks to forgetting my password).

  • The Bard in Green
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    I’m running my own instance, JUST so I can be in control of my own Lemmy experience (and in control of my own archive of my Lemmy activity). I’m not going anywhere anytime soon.

    Yes, my instance was down for three days last week. I had trouble with an update and didn’t have time to troubleshoot it. But I wanted my Lemmy so I DID get around to it and got it working again. And yeah… I never did get email working properly so when my ONE friend who’s not me joined my instance I had to command line into the database and approve him manually. But so what?

    And yeah, eventually the internet ecosystem may shift again, or I might get hit by a bus or who knows?

    But if you WANT to join a tiny instance that’s 99.999% (bus factor) not going anywhere for a while, I’d probably let you join mine.

      • @Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
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        02 years ago

        Not the person you ask, but as I’m in the same boat (finally got everything running except email lol), I use a scrap dell PC with a 8gen hexacore, 512GB SSD, 4TB HD & 8GB RAM on a 1Gb/~700Mb line 🤷 I’m aiming at an artsy/comics drawings server (hence some initial space) and I think I’ll open it up for inscriptions when I have figured out the OVH mail config…

        But it’s a big step, today if it crams it’s just impacting me.

        Cheers!

        • @Gamey@lemmy.world
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          02 years ago

          I don’t host my own instance but that sounds immensly overpowered for the job! Lemmy doesn’t even host images and pure text, a database and web interface shouldn’t be that hard to host

    • @1984@lemmy.today
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      That’s the thing about the fediverse, you need to be the change you want to see. Post a lot and contribute.

      I will try and post something new every day to help keep new content flowing in. Can’t expect everyone else to just keep us entertained. :)