Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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    ruzzia is running out of everything and using its last reserves.

    EU and NATO need to pool together every resource to bankrupt this rotten state and drive it from Ukrainian soil. The defeat has to be so harsh that the ruzzkis won’t be able to cross any border forever. Confine them to their own country, period.

    • @Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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      America here…heh. We’re gonna be useless come January!

      Actually we might even be working against the cause. It would not surprise me to see trumps cabinet do shitty things like sending russia weapons and money.

      In fact, I’m basically expecting it.

      Just know that it’s not ALL America. Just like 52% of us…or, I should say 52% of the 2024 voting public.

      • @Vikthor@lemmy.world
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        …or, I should say 52% of the 2024 voting public.

        No. I hold those who didn’t vote accountable too.

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          The moment the Democrats lost the election was the one when Harris was asked what she would do differently than Biden and her answer was basically “nothing”. If you ever run for president and are asked that question, just pick something at random and say “Biden does not enough for X. I would make sure that X would be a priority issue!”

          This level of stupidity is not the voter’s (or non-voter’s) fault. Dems made their bed rock and now everyone has to lie in it.

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            The mistakes of the Harris campaign are not the fault of the non-voters.

            The fact that voters didn’t turn out to vote against literal and clearly fucking stated fascism is the fault of the non-voters.

            • @Freefall@lemmy.world
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              Exactly. Nonvoters didn’t vote against insane evil, that is fully on them no matter how they spin it.

              • BombOmOm
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                ‘Vote for me or you are a bad person’ doesn’t sell, never has. Democrats had a wakeup call 8 years ago and let it pass them by. Hopefully they take it this time and strengthen the party and candidates.

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                  irrelevant… you shouldn’t need to sell “not fascism”

                  being a fucking shit campaign is the dems fault

                  choosing not to vote against literal fascism remains the fault of those people who did not vote

                  responsibility can be shared; the world is not black and white or pure good and evil

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            Dude listen to yourself .

            Harris was literally up against a fucking emperor wannabe who already fucked the countey in incredibly short order, backed by a batshit party openly admitting they wanted to implement project 2025.

            This is not a situation where you go “hmm, well she didn’t quite tickle my balls enough, so I guess i’ll let the fascists win”. And if you do, you are complicit. You got the chance to stand up and instead you shoved your head up your own arse

            • @astropenguin5@lemmy.world
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              You also underestimate the stupidity of the average voter/person. Most people vote on vibes, not policy, and don’t pay that much actual attention to politics.

              • Dave.
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                The US reached the “bread and circuses” stage of politics a decade or so ago. Once the population figures out it can vote itself money (or the promise of money) it’s all over.

                Look at the campaign promises of the incoming president. “More for you, not them”, sums it up. The problem is that everyone hopes they are the “you” in that offer.

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              Society is in a rotten state. People don’t care about others or others’ rights, they only care about themselves in the depraved delusion that one day they will have “made it”. Look back 4 years ago when people were too selfish to cut out their weekend binge drinking or simply wearing a mask to protect others (and themselves). Introspection, empathy, consideration, those are gone, it’s all about self-worth, “confidence” (god how I hate that word) and self-respect to push the inevitable realization that what one is doing is unsustainable and damaging to everyone else far, far back into the future.

              I don’t know why you take so much offense that I wrote that it doesn’t surprise me one bit that a fascist is elected over someone who people are sure to not benefit from. The 40 users of lemmy who show respect and care are not representative to society as a whole from what I’ve seen.

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            The non-voters tacitly agreed to let fascism happen. I totally get that people weren’t happy about voting for Harris, I certainly wouldn’t have been. But if I have choice between a carbuncle on my ass on the one hand, and AIDS, Ebola, testicle cancer and leprosy combined on the other hand, the choice is easy.

              • Pup Biru
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                well shit i guess we better ignore all those obvious symptoms of leprosy in that case… obviously it was just joking

          • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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            That’s not accurate though, there were a number of things she was going to do differently than Biden. She talked about having less taxes on billionaires than Biden did. She talked about less consumer protection than Biden was going to give and she and her billionaire Tech Bro donors were happily about to oust Lina Khan. Unlike Biden she didn’t make unions a large part of her campaign. She did want to do things differently than Biden, it’s just all the things she wanted to do differently were the things people like about Joe Biden.

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        It’s not even 52%, in the end it’s ended up being 50% VS 48.3%. He barely got half of all votes with the overall gap only being 2.6 million votes. That’s razor thin, the only reason it worked out the way it did (apparent “easy win”) is because of the electoral college system, which is a bit biased towards conservatism anyway by giving quite a bit of power to smaller, less populated states.

        Besides that, I do agree that it’s a bit of a question what will happen. I’ve seen people say that Rubio and Waltz appear to indicate a slightly different course but no one really knows besides the coming government.

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        …down to 49% now as the votes keep coming in; the russian propaganda apparatus reaches deep but not yet that deep…

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        I just hope that Trump’s miserable health gets the better of him before he gets the chance to backstab the whole of the western world. As shitty as Vance may be, he comes across as much less in love with Putin than Trumpler.

    • @ThePrimitive@lemmy.world
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      Pretty sure they did this as nuclear sabre rattling in response to the ATACMS and Storm Shadow attacks, not because of resource constraints.

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    Russia declares US missile base in Poland a target

    uh… that would get all of NATO involved, wouldn’t it?

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      Yes, an attack on a NATO member would immedialy invoke article 5 (which has only been done once in history - 9/11)

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    What Russia wants us to think:

    “O no, allowing Ukraine to fire atacms into Russia was to much escalation! We must back down!”

    What we actually think:

    “Russia ran out of missiles and has to reach deep down its soviet arsenal to fire the last thing it’s got. Next, they’ll fire an R7”

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    Well, I’m sure the US military complex is excited to test whether they can swat these out of the sky with their expensive toys. Now they have a chance to try.

    And the more Russia launches, surely that technology will improve

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    Seems like a bit of a waste to launch an intercontinental missile at a country next door, on the same continent. Isn’t Russia supposed to have plenty of short and mid range ballistic missiles? I guess they must be running low.

    I was under the impression that ICBMs weren’t all that great for conventional warheads. Their payload capacity isn’t enormous and their accuracy tends to be relatively low- which matters not a jot if you’re firing nukes (which do a lot of bang per kilo, and where a few hundred metres either way isn’t likely to be critical), but not so great for dropping normal munitions.

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      I suspect the use of an RS-26 was meant to serve as a provocation/response to the recent ATACMs strikes.

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        I posted elsewhere about the rumour Russia was going to fire an RS26.

        I got called a liar and warmonger.

        Well, my next prediction remains the same: Russia WILL eventually use nukes. Because there will come a moment of “use it or lose it”, and Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

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          There’s still a few steps left on the escalation ladder.

          Conceivably I can see them detonating a nuke somewhere over the blacksea at a high enough altitude to minimise fallout as a demonstration that they are serious and have the capability.

        • @Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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          Russia prefers a destroyed world over an intact one without Russia.

          That much is true, but none of this is existential. If the Russian military packs up and heads home, Russia continues to exist. They don’t want to do that ofc, but obviously Russia prefers an intact world with Russia compared to a destroyed world.

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          Russia: launches nuke…

          West: does nothing because they don’t want to start WW3

          Russia: that’s what I thought bitch

          Seems to be the way things are going.

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      Launching just one sounds like the primary purpose is for messaging, not taking out whatever single target. They want to remind Europeans that they aren’t safe just because they live far away. The west has been getting numb to the constant threats of using nuclear weapons. I believe this launch is to give those threats more weight again.

      The US will no longer be a threat to Russian ambitions come January. Expect an urgent fear campaign to get the rest of NATO to no longer want to stick their necks out for Ukraine.

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        Nah, we’re not numb. But the fact of the matter is, we can’t change anything and letting him win is not going to work, because what’s the alternative? Being subjugated or attacked at a later state?

        Putin should not forget however, that “we”, the EU, also have Nukes and will retaliate, if push comes to shove. Those threats are meaningless either way.

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          Yeah this is far more a matter of there being a line. Putin has been aggressive towards nato and the eu for a long time. He’s currently invading countries when they get closer to us and cracking down on his own citizens’ rights. It’s clear he won’t stop with Ukraine. He can rattle his saber all he wants. If he fires a nuke France alone can destroy all of Russia that matters, and that’s assuming his fuckery with the US stops us from doing our duty to MAD and NATO.

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      This missile is only “Intercontinental” if you launch it from the edge of a continent. It’s got about 6000km of range, which is a lot, but these are obviously meant for use in Europe. They were probably thinking of London and Paris when designing them though.

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      These missiles are designed with Western Europe in mind. Specifically, to deter them from coming to help Eastern Europe.

      • But are failed launches trackable? My point is that this may not be the first attempt. If their missile systems are anything like everything else in their arsenal, a successful launch is a one off exception.

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          A failed launch, as in an initially successful launch that went wrong in the air, can afterwards be spotted even on commercial satellite images: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/09/satellite-images-suggest-test-of-russian-super-weapon-failed-spectacularly/ The usa and nato probably know long before those amateur spotters do.

          If the rocket fails to launch at all when the button is pressed, then noone will be allowed to know probably. It could be that they tried to launch 10 and only 1 ignited, or maybe there was just the one. Russia isn’t going to tell the truth about anything so it’s anyone’s guess. If it fails to ignite, then I’d expect them to just pack up the rocket again and continue to pretend doing maintenance and have soldiers guarding the stuff.

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          They probably are afterwards. Most sat pics trained on that have some kind of image recognition stuff running in the background and they flag that. Apparently that’s how that Satan failure was also firstly detected

          Edit: I also wouldn’t be so sure about the ICBMs being in the same state as everything else.

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        Dyatlov: What does the dosimeter say?

        Akimov: 3.6 roentgen. But that’s as high as the meter…

        Dyatlov: 3.6 - not great, not terrible.

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      You don’t, which why (aside from cost) nations don’t use them as toys.

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        Yeah. If you want to demonstrate ICBM capability you launch a satellite, especially a lunar satellite. Everyone plays nice and celebrates the science while understanding that your rocketry can get a payload into orbit with enough fuel and accuracy to accelerate and maneuver to exactly where you want to go.

        If an ICBM comes at a MAD nation standing orders for nuclear strikes go into effect. Using it with conventional munitions on a MAD nation is a fast way to get your entire population killed without returning the favor.