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    For as many foolish things Kennedy has talked about wanting to institute, a drug ad ban is not one of them. Kinda awesome, actually.

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      He would be fired by trump before this would happen. The reason it is still allowed is because of interest money and this administration is all about money. The only way I would see such ban happening would be banning those ads on TV while enabling them on social media.

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        Maybe the play is that he threatens to ban them until drug companies talk to him at a dinner and discuss much needed financial support for this administration’s projects.

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          That’s how trump works, so it is possible that this is the idea.

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      This “broken clock” is right a surprising amount of the time, just don’t focus on the occasional statement he makes that the corporate media really, really wants you to focus on, they’ve deployed the crackpot strategy on a guy who really just wants you to eat healthy and make your own choices about your health.

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        He wants to remove approval for the polio vaccine. That alone is enough to say he should go get fucked.

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        I’m not of the belief that the general American public has enough agency or wherewithal to make their own choices about health.

        Source: Louisiana… in general.

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          Odd argument for a thread essentially about advertising to the public directly, instead of health professionals in trade journals.

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            You’re right. They just haven’t heard it from the right place, yet.

            goes back to his crystal and sage healing appointment

            Don’t get vaccinated, btw. Heard it from a guy last week at the bowling alley.

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                I haven’t heard one to rebuke. I’ve mostly just been making fun of you thusfar.

                Do you have an argument beyond RFK isn’t that crazy, just… some?

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        He is a fucking crackpot. Anti-vaccine anti-science worm eaten brained idiotic moron who did heroin for 15 years straight.

        Your heroes are insane. You are insane.

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          You need to actually listen to what he is saying, not what others say he is. Sustainable farming, eat healthy, limit processed oil intake, reduction of pesticide/herbicide/etc use…these are not crackpot positions, simply threats to the corporate status quo.

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      The other was avoiding processed foods. I’m guessing he won’t be allowed to implement that either when his boss gets a wheelbarrow full of cash from the McClown.

      There’s a shot of RFK and the rest of the Dream Team holding a Big Mac somewhere and he genuinely looks like they’ve asked him to pose with a freshly laid dog turd.

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        He also left the dead carcas of a bear in Central Park.

        He also drove over 300 miles to cut the head off a beached whale and bring it home.

        RFK does a lot of strange things, and i don’t think it was 100% the brain worm either.

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          He also had a habit of eating raw or even partly rotten meat for a while IIRC. That’s probably how he got that brain worm.

          The behind the bastards podcast about him was a wild ride

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    He’s a weird mix of “cannot be allowed near the job” and great ideas.

    Well, two. This and getting the stigma off of psychedelics.

    Nothing’s worth having an anti-vaxxer in charge, though. Not even close.

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      You forgot his third one, he supports stem cell research, which is odd given that his new buddies don’t approve of creating new sources of stem cells (aborted fetal tissue).

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        Well, IVF is still legal for the time being.

        And fun fact! Depending on the facility, if there’s any unused fertilized eggs left the woman/couple can decide to donate them to medical stem cell research facilities.

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    This idea has been around longer than RFK Jr. has been relevant in politics. These ads are illegal in most of the civilized world.

    The more I read about him, the more my opinion solidifies that his position is simply: be against all of mainstream medicine.

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    Heh, he’s crazy as all get-out, but I agree with getting drug ads away from the uneducated public. If an ad has to have “ask your doctor about”, it shouldn’t exist anywhere, not just TV.

    He just wants this one to de-educate people on the existence of drugs in general, but honestly, if you need to see a doctor to talk about them/get them, they don’t need advertising in the first place. It does open up a bigger discussion on knowledge about the availability of pharmaceutical treatments, though, since some people probably ask their doctors about symptom treatment based on ads. It’s purely reactive and the wrong way to take care of your health, but, I won’t ignore the obviously systematic issues with access to affordable healthcare for proactive care, vs. “make this hurting stop” care.

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      In Canada, they aren’t allowed to tell you what a drug does in the ad, but they still have them. They try to hint at what they do, or just give you a vibe for it.

      The classic example is the original series of Viagra ads.

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    This is a good thing. His motivation may be more sinister. It could create a situation where non medical treatments can be advertised without restriction and genuine medicines can’t. It needs to be applied to all treatments, even unregulated ones.

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      There will be exceptions. Anything endorsed by Dr Oz will be allowed. Anything endorsed by Trump will be allowed.

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    Fuck him and his insane and dangerous suggestions about medical stuff.

    But “ask your doctor about X” ads where X is a prescription-only drug should definitely be banned. Why the fuck would I ask my doctor about a medication if they haven’t already suggested it to me?

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      Unfortunately, because it might be the only way to learn about an alternative treatment that wasn’t advertised to your doctor. If a law like this is put into place, it would have to be accompanied by greatly strengthened regulations on pharmaceutical reps too

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        If a treatment relies on advertising then it probably isn’t very effective. In fact, there’s boatloads of treatments that get approved by the FDA because they meet the minimum standard of “not going to kill someone right away and some folks showed a minor improvement.” It doesn’t mean they’re any good or worth trying just because you heard about them in an ad.

        Not only that but doctors know about all the treatments for the things they specialize in. You think they’re living under a rock‽ They know about that treatment X that’s being advertised everywhere but they also know that it didn’t show an efficacy at all at treating your specific condition(s) or they’ll know that the risk it carries outweighs the potential benefits.

        Doctors know 10,000 times more than you (or health insurers!) do about what’s medically necessary and/or effective. If a patient suggests a treatment don’t be surprised if the doctor’s eyes roll. “Here we go again.”

        Ads for prescription medications are a huge waste of money and they also waste doctors time explaining why they’re not a good idea for all the zillions of patients that “ask their doctor” about them.

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          It’s really a pain in the ass. People wanting to use stuff just because they saw it on tv. I’m a hospice nurse. Those old people are bombarded with ads and scams.

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        Unfortunately, because it might be the only way to learn about an alternative treatment that wasn’t advertised to your doctor.

        This was almost exactly my situation and I’m still in favor of banning pharmaceutical advertising to the public because those same ads that drastically improved my life have harmed millions of others.

        I’m a transgender man, with a moderate needle phobia. I transitioned over a decade ago, and back then testosterone gel was basically never used for transition (the cost was significantly higher and insurance coverage was almost non-existent back then - I did have insurance coverage though) and there was misinformation around it in the trans community in the rare instance gel was discussed - but the only reason I or pretty much anyone else knew it was an option was the obscene deluge of ads for it. I asked my doctor about it and she figured out the dosing for me. It’s been a fantastic choice for me for a lot of reasons beyond just the needle phobia issues.

        But testosterone replacement therapy, and Androgel specifically, is a case study in exactly why you don’t want this kind of widespread direct to consumer marketing. Androgel basically created a market for their drug through this marketing. Men in their 60s complained about not feeling like they were in their 20s anymore (without any other negative symptoms of low T) and demanded a medication that could have increased their risk of cardiovascular issues and forced them onto the medication permanently, and they didn’t even feel 20 again because they’re not 20 anymore.

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    Read what a lot of you are saying in this thread about “rare W” and the like and thought of this poignant saying…

    “You can’t only piss in one PART of the pool”

    You won’t get just the one thing you want from RFK jt, you’ll get it all - Stop taking the bait, dipshits. This is the candy he’s trying to give you while sliding down your pants with the other hand and slathering coconut oil on your b-hole.

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      Trump won, so the US will get a pissed pool no matter what.

      To say “rare w” isn’t to deny that, it’s acknowledging that even though the pool is absolutely disgusting with 80% piss, at least that’ll help some people with skin conditions.

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        Yep that’s basically it. “Rare W” is not an endorsement, it’s pretty much the opposite : recognizing that an otherwise terrible person/organization did something good or made a good point for once.

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        I get the general idea, but that’s not the point - you need to always deliver the sugar with the sour around these fucking people. Their tactic is repeating a lie constantly. When you’re constantly just saying, “I actually love this” and nothing else, you’re doing work for the bad guys.

        You can’t show just the outside beauty shot of the cupcake, you always have to cut it open to show clearly that the center is stuffed with warm, wet dog shit

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        Piss in the pool is probably the least of our worries. He’s gonna be emptying the proverbial RV septic tank into our fucking community pool.

        The shitter is very full.

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    This is how people end up down conspiracy theory rabbit holes. A conspiracy nut has just enough actually good ideas that people start to think they’re smart and believe the utter nonsense they spew afterwards.

    I still don’t like him, but I’d love to see this happen.