Any of those in the US market?

I’ve only seen Rivians and Teslas in my parts.

Not a single one of them is available where I live. And once I checked them, they’re not really family cars I was hoping for.

There’s a little blue Honda EV I see at work. Looks smart as.

Good news everyone!

If I was alone, this would be an option. With family, not so much. I’ve heard horrible stories, struggling to go uphill with 4 people on board, etc. And I live in a hilly area.

It’s a cool car, yes. Too small for me, but cool as fuck. Used ones are affordable, but it’s still 34k € new, which is not cheap at all.

I had the option but it drove me nuts

Well, I mean a car where I can fit with my wife, two kids, bag of groceries and still drive uphill…

It depends… As our old Ford gave up, I bought used car at the end of 2023. It is Kia Ceed SW, was three and a half years old when I bought it and I paid roughly 14k € for it, which is about my ceiling for a car. Not that I couldn’t pay more, but I don’t want to as our family doesn’t drive that much. Our last car did about 5-10k km a year and this one is no different.

When I was checking BEV at the time there was nothing usable at my price range and area. Couple of used E-Ups, which are too small honestly (that’s why we bought SW, trunk is always full of something). Same goes for BMW i3, which is also so hideous my wife said it would be a divorce. Not many E-Golfs, most of them totally abused, and way older than I’d like. Few Renault Zoes, but that’s a brand I wouldn’t trust with my past experience… There was simply nothing that would make sense. Not sure how it changed during 2024, but my hopes are low.

They have there place, but they are in the same boat as vans etc. They are commercial vehicles, to do a job, not city runabouts to stroke egos.

I’m a sole trader, Stone Mason, I make enough to buy a used vehicle, but not new. Know what I would love? A light duty truck, no crew cab road princess bullshit, two seats in front, maybe a single half door passenger side for putting stuff behind the seats, and a properly sized bed. There’s no such thing on the used market. There’s absolutely uses for small trucks for trades folk. Back in Canada I had an older Ford Ranger, from when they were a rebadged Mitsubishi B3200. I would step over my dying gran for something like that here in the UK. The new Rangers are a fucking joke, FWD, crew cab standard, and they’re the size of the old F-150s, completely unusable in the UK. I’m thinking about maybe importing a Japanese Kei Truck. There’s some larger ones that are smaller than an old Ranger, but big enough for what I need…and they look cool AF.

Pickups have their uses in Europe as well. Where I live, it seems like most pest controllers (rat catchers, an easy to clean open trunk is probably very nice) and land surveyors prefer them over other vehicles. They all use smaller sensible size pickups from Japanese brands though.

I think I’ve spotted only 2 different modern USA oversized pickups in traffic. Both full black, never a speck of dirt on them, always tailgating someone. They are vastly outnumbered by the sensible pickups, but you just can’t miss spotting them in traffic.

Pretty much true in the US too - especially a Raptor.

Let’s see how big of a mouth you run when i pull up in my ranger plastered with punisher skulls you beta 😎😎 _{jkdon’tbullymepls}

Mate my wife dresses me but categorising me with them POS trucks is just too far.

I used to have a proton jumbuck, it was a really handy pickup and the same size as a regular car. But it’s hard to find parts for em in the UK. It’s a shame there aren’t many sensibly-sized pickups.

But yeah, I kind of think most people who have massive ones that only get used for school run and supermarket are knobs.

At least the current vw CEO isn’t openly a Nazi and they make good cars; unlike muskrat and his swasticars.

WWII might be a distant memory for Americans, but most of Europeans have been to historical sites of Jewish genocide.

ADL supporting Musk’s salute, made US media/Zionist CNBC anyway ignore it. Germany doing the projection stunt on Tesla factory had more EU coverage. Social media, even reddit, is just starting to censor Musk anger now. Though, old people who casually think what mainstream media tells them, would go “media told us that ADL said he never did it, and they would never profit from anti semitism”

Doing a nazi salute while making the Mussolini face, no less!

This is the way. I wish more people would accept what is quite literally only minor inconvenience in the name of starving these insane companies. We honestly have it so good in most of modern society, and some things are just totally optional imo.

Thanks

Yeah sad thing is I can understand Starlink being the only option for some people, so yeah I wouldn’t blame you for using it.

I’d judge Tesla drivers if they bought the car this year.

Hoarding that much excess wealth induces mental disorders.

I was wondering if epigenetics may speak to that, in some cases

The only solution is to redistribute their wealth.

For the rest of us. I’m curious if it addresses the sociopathic tendencies of the original wealth hoarder?

ETA: that was a quick search for that study and I certainly don’t understand it well.