cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/31683994

Fox News reports that Donald Trump may consider using nuclear weapons to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility

The U.S. military has reservations regarding the success of using a bunker-buster bomb, a non nuclear weapon, to eliminate Iran’s Fordo nuclear facility, buried deep in a mountain. Two defense officials were reportedly briefed that only a tactical nuclear weapon could reach the facility.

  • Fredselfish@lemmy.world
    160·
    10 个月前

    Trump will drop a nuke before leaving office. He been begging to use one since his first term. They literally had to stop him from nucking a hurricane. He wants to do it. My worry is he will drop one on an American state.

  • Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world
    50·
    10 个月前

    If this were to happen, it would be a green light for Putin.

    Let’s hope to all fuck that our idiotic congress or who the fuck ever, prevents this abject, fucking, idiocy.

    • floofloof@lemmy.ca
      40·
      10 个月前

      Congress isn’t stopping him doing anything. I don’t see them suddenly changing just to prevent global nuclear war.

    • opavader@lemmy.world
      8·
      10 个月前

      excluding few hard left or right leaders, our entire congress works for aipac so fat chance of that. they will approve nuking LA and SF if israel told them to.

    • charade_you_are@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      10 个月前

      I thought I could write solid, dark comments but your comment about having our only hopes based solely on congress wins all the awards for darkest comment ever written.

  • Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works
    44·
    10 个月前

    Something tells me he has already given the order multiple times but the people around him have to carefully explain to him why that’s a very bad idea until he backs down.

  • bitjunkie@lemmy.world
    32·
    10 个月前

    “We want to stop nuclear proliferation by starting a nuclear war.” - these fucking geniuses, apparently

  • LovingHippieCat@lemmy.world
    24·
    10 个月前

    Ah yes, very smart, let’s use a nuke to blow up a nuclear facility. There couldn’t possibly be a much larger explosion and spread of radiation because of that.

    • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
      32·
      10 个月前

      Explosion no. Extra fallout, maybe. But the facility we’re talking about is deep underground, so even if it happens, hopefully that contains some of the fallout.

    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
      21·
      10 个月前

      Well, there actually wouldn’t be a much larger explosion, that’s just not how nukes work.
      A nuclear explosion is an incredibly delicate process, and the material just won’t go critical because there’s another detonation nearby. It’s not like dropping a bomb on a dynamite warehouse. There’s not a great analogy for what it is like though. Expecting a satellite launch to happen because you blew up a tank of rocket fuel next to it? Not quite there.

      Additional contamination from onsite material is a different matter. Most nukes detonate above their target since that maximizes damage, but it also reduces fallout. There would, however, be vaporized material that would be sucked into the air by the vacuum created by the detonation. It’s not clear if the presence of radioactive material would make it significantly worse than the general “radioactive dust and molten sand” that would normally be sent into the air.

      In general, if you nuke something there’s going to be radioactive issues afterwards, and you shouldn’t do it. Adding a nuclear facility to the mix is kinda just throwing rocks at the windows on 9/11.

      • opavader@lemmy.world
        3·
        10 个月前

        tons of enriched uranium becoming part of the fallout plume and spreading across middle east and possibly some parts of europe and asia is a very likely outcome.

        netayanahu is scum enough to not care and trump is too stupid to care. then there is possibilities of pakistan launching nuke in return on israel and then idf activating samson.

  • AA5B@lemmy.world
    23·
    10 个月前

    “Art of the Deal”. Always start “negotiations” with a threat to go nuclear, then brag and posture and bully. Deal

    • Joeffect@lemmy.world
      12·
      10 个月前

      You forgot the part where you Chicken out and go back on everything so you lose on both sides… No one ever sees it coming

      • Jhex@lemmy.worldBanned
        3·
        10 个月前

        Now it’s crystal clear how this absolute idiot bankrupt a casino

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
    23·
    10 个月前

    What is a country? A miserable pile of war crimes.

    Turning a habitable area full of innocent people into a pile of radioactive rubble and dying people why? Because fucking the Israeli government wants to genocide palestinians without resistance? Damn we fucking suck as a country

    • dhork@lemmy.worldEnglish
      17·
      10 个月前

      Jesus was a Palestinian Jew, if Trump met Him today he would send Him to CECOT.

      • Tujio@lemmy.world
        7·
        10 个月前

        Talked about sharing and didn’t like rich folks. This admin ordnance a huge fan of brown socialists.

    • the_wiz@feddit.org
      1·
      10 个月前

      Nah, would be massively out of character for JC… his old man on the other side… well, HE got a nasty temper from time to time

  • charade_you_are@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    22·
    10 个月前

    What a great precedent that would set. Seems like humans are moving towards ending all life on earth. Just another dead rock in an infinite vacuum.

  • TimLovesTech@badatbeing.socialEnglish
    19·
    10 个月前

    He is going to back pedal because Iran is his boss’s (Putin ) ally. He is once again talking shit he has no intention of backing up. I could see him ordering a nin-nuke strike on something that wouldn’t get him in trouble with his handler though as a fake tough man move.

    • thru_dangers_untold@lemmy.world
      10·
      10 个月前

      He floats the craziest idea so that whatever happens he can say “at least I didn’t do that one thing” and his base will praise him for it–even though the thing he actually did was still moronic. This is the “permanent 300% tariff”, “Canada will be the 51st state”, or the “Golden Trump Gaza” video. It’s the only way this imbecile knows how to negotiate.

      • InputZero@lemmy.world
        4·
        10 个月前

        The Golden Trump Gaza, what a fucking joke. I could be totally wrong but I’m going to take a guess and say that the Gaza strip is one of the most bombed out places in the world. If true it’ll be littered with unexploded ordinance forever or at least practically forever. He wants to make a giant Mar’a Lago? Sure okay, I’m sure your guests would enjoy the risk of losing a limb or being killed cause a forgotten bomb goes off 10 years later.

    • Akasazh@feddit.nl
      3·
      10 个月前

      He’s gonna backpadel because he is a wimp, a paper tiger, he doesn’t dare to send people to war as he’s chickened out of Viet Nam.

      TACO

  • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
    18·
    10 个月前

    So we’ll have a war of aggression with Iran for? We don’t like them? Israel has committed more violations of national borders and laws. The KoSA and Egypt’s citizens were involved in 9-11 and they are “allies”.

  • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
    14·
    10 个月前

    The headline is a reading into it a bit. They said nothing is off the table, but they are confident that a conventional strike would accomplish the goal.

    Not that a strike would happen anyway, but they rarely say that any option is completely off the table. A nuclear first strike should be one of those options off the table, but it’s the Trump administration we’re talking about.

  • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
    13·
    10 个月前

    At this point I’m alright with a nuclear apocalypse, we had it coming. I just hope I’m close enough to a blast sight to not have to deal with the aftermath.