• djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    9 months ago

    I know the ending is bad, but Game of Thrones was like the peak of fantasy TV for a good chunk of its run, and now I hear people actively recommending against watching it. The ending doesn’t stop people from enjoying all the good bits!

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      I wouldn’t recommend against people watching it, but I would caution them because it’s a big time commitment for the ending you get.

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      For a new viewer, it’s worth watching. As someone who’s seen the end, literally the first scene of S1E1 sets up a huge mystery that never ever gets resolved

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      I just think it’s ironic that it came to mirror the books in that you can enjoy absolutely top-notch storytelling for a while and then can’t enjoy the ending.

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      It took me many years but I’ve since gone back and done a rewatch. The first few seasons really are absolutely fantastic. Knowing that the ending sucks still hurts, but at least this time I know it will suck. It softens the blow.

      House of the Dragon season 1 was great, season 2 had an abrupt ending but was still great.

      I’m looking forward to A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms.

      It’s still a great world.

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        You really found HoD s2 to be great? I found the whole thing to be nothing but stall and delay.

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          It definitely should have been amazing, but it was cut short. We should have had more war, we got some, but there was more building for war than I think was needed (at least at this point in the story).

          Arguably I’m falling into the same trap Game of Thrones had, I’m giving the current season the benefit of the doubt because the next season will take care of it. Luckily, at least this time, we’re moving towards a real written ending.

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      I wouldn’t tell people not to watch it, but I sure as shit can’t rewatch it without getting frustrated. So many amazing plot points that mean nothing, for no reason

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      My wife had a bigger reaction to the show getting progressively worse because she felt wronged by the fact they “made her wait A WHOLE YEAR to watch garbage”, lol. It might add to the fans’ frustration and bad blood. I binged it like 2-3 years ago, and I truly enjoyed it all the way til the end of season 5. Most shows don’t have a good pilot, I can’t hate one with 5 great seasons, but again I didn’t have to wait for it. 🤷

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      I recently did another re-watch and I found that I grew bored of it in Season 4.

      Anyone asks me I tell them to watch the first three seasons and quit.

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        Yeah people talk about the last season but it started way before then. Arguably I’d say the crack start in season 2 but yeah it doesn’t get bad until season 4. That’s when things are starting to noticeably go downhill.

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      I never considered it but it explains Redditors’ deep hatred for the show, lol. It’s not like it’s the only trash show that’s also popular…

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      oh yea, there was a sub 2xchromosome, some women thought it was a mysogynistic show based on how they dumbed the female actors overtime.

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        Oh, that is pretty funny, since it’s a sitcom. The only way a character in a sitcom doesn’t collect a bunch of braindead stupid choices is getting written out of the show.

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    “Nu Trek”, ie. Star Trek: Discovery and maybe Strange New Worlds depending on how deranged the person whinging about “Nu Trek” is.

    edit: oh look, proof in the comments

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      Discovery is fine, but it is the worst of the Star Trek series. It’s not bottom of the barrel TV, but it’s weak. It does some fun things, but it has a lot of episodes that just drag on.

      That being said Strange New Worlds is excellent. It does have some weak episodes but when it’s great, it’s fantastic.

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        STD, AND picard were pretty bad, but snw is only so-so, lower decks is much better than the 3 though. prodigy might have more praise if it lasted longer as a series.

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        Totally agree. Discovery definitely had some fun cool things, especially in the early seasons. Unfortunately I think it got kind of sanctimonious as it progressed and that made a lot of the episodes kind of tedious.

        SNW is sooo good, though. Still mad that Lower Decks was cancelled, too.

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          Personally, I hated Picard a lot more than Enterprise. The first season was fine. But it was all kind of confusing after that.

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            picard was wierd bad at the same time, 1st season romulan threat, dropped in the 2nd season, which had borg and potential invasion of time traveling borg, immediately dropped the 3rd season with no explanation until the very last few episodes, and the wierd changeling arc?. this is all kurtzman’s doing for all 3 seasons.

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              Because kurtzmann just cherry picks the high notes and stuffs them in devoid of context

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            Picard gets a pass because season 3 was a love letter to 90s Trek. It’s a 10 episode reunion episode.

            I had fun with season 2. If you look at it as a mirror universe or holodeck program going wild, it’s fun. But also it’s sorta just a weird fanfic of a season.

            Season 1 exists.

            Maybe Picard is worse than Discovery, but Discovery also wasted a lot more of my time, but also Discovery gave us Strange New Worlds.

            The biggest disappointment of Enterprise is that after all the 90s Trek build up, we go back to the start of the Trek timeline. We build a fun new Next Generation era and then just drop it for the Beginning Generation.

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            OK yeah to be fair I did think Picard was way worse than Enterprise. I watched all of ENT but couldn’t get more than a few episodes into Picard, it was just ehhhhh

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      Discovery had some good episodes, but a lot of the writing was terrible, like the season with the ship that had all knowledge that they couldn’t get away from, they wrote themselves into a corner and then the resolution was nonsense

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        they decided the future was escape from the bad writing, of the klingons, cloaking tech, and instantaneous teleportation, they toned down the spore drive teleportation by the end because it was getting too much negative attention .

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      It’s actually all garbage but at least the movies were better than whatever Marvel slop is being churned out these days. It’s just a gigantic drop in quantity if you compare it to the previous shows that were written by literate folks with at least secondary education and not whatever free LLMs that Kurtzman guy and friends are using to write their shows, lol.

      I don’t even care because I understand IPs and titles can be easily bought, I never expected any quality just because the shows share the same name. 🤷

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      Disc didn’t grab me, SNW started off solid but man, now it just seems to be shitpost eps. Lower decks had more coherency than the last two s3 offerings.

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      Everything Alex Kurzman touches turns it to a steaming pile of shit.

      SNW has been OK, so far and i have a hunch that Alex has been in the sidelines, but the newest season has started to smell like him.

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    The big bang theory. I thought it was fine. Not great or anything, but not bad either. But my impression is that its not very popular in these circles.

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    Dragon Ball Super. People took a cherry-picked zoomed-in screenshot of Goku from like episode 4 or whatever and it’s still memed even today, as if there aren’t parts of the show that have outstanding animation.

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    Hm, have a few based on how popular they were. Kickstart discussion!

    Hot take - the Office is too hated now. I think that it’s fair to hate it now in comparison to many other (honestly better) shows, but forget what TV was like in the 90s and 00s. No committal sitcoms in the 4-camera layout, taking no risks, with lame-ass jokes. The office is not perfect - but it definitely broke the mold and kickstarted the modern mockumentary style of show. Thanks to it we got shows like Parks and Rec and 30 rock, none of which would have been approved without the Office first.

    New Girl - Honestly, it’s a fun show. No I wouldn’t expect it to win any Emmys, and like all sitcoms it’s main characters are all psycopath/narcissists, but it’s fun. Zooey Deschanel does a great job, she’s over the top like she is in everything but I never found it too annoying, and she’s mellowed by a great ensemble cast. The stories are light and the humor gets a chuckle out out of me

    and what the hell rule of 3s. I’ll say NCIS - hated by our age demographic - but hey what the hell else would we watch when our older family members were visiting?

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    I thought ‘Man Vs Bee’ was hilarious and on-par with some of Rowan Atkinson’s earlier physical comedy. It was more controversial than I expected; quite a large number of people review bombed it online.

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      I don’t have Netflix anymore, so I’d never heard of this series till reading your comment. If it’s British, then I almost always give it a chance. The best in the world at comedy, imo. Time to download it.

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        The episodes are super short so altogether it’s essentially a film and very bingeable. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did!

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    My pick would be The Simpsons. I have watched it a lot growing up, but only at the beginning of this year did I do a full 35 season binge watch.

    And any opinion you find online boils down to classic Simpsons was great, modern Simpsons sucks.

    And I disagree with this premise. Because fundamentally The Simpsons Isn’t one show, it’s actually three. You have the classic era, then the transitional era, and the modern era. and it is that transitional era where I think the show stumbled the most.

    Nowadays, though, I think the show is pretty good. Sure, the classic era might have been better on average, but I think it managed to pull itself out of the slump. And I still laugh at jokes even in the worst episodes.