I was just cleaning out my junk drawer and found my mouth shield in there🤦🏼♀️ A lotta good that would do me if I ever needed it and not only didn’t have it, but had no idea where it was.
But really in all my years of being certified & re-certified, I’ve NEVER encountered anyone in need of rescue.
If we all carried around everything we could possibly need at every given moment for any possible unforeseen need, we’d all be hauling 20 ft long trailers 😆
I’m a minimalist and everywhere I go I bring as little as possible. Sometimes I bring nothing at all with me places I go. I really prefer to travel lightly.
I have been a CPR instructor and assessor
I won’t bother with breathing for someone I’m doing CPR on
Good to see constant compression has finally gotten so much mindshare.
There’s plenty of air being moved with compression, and the unfortunate reality is that lots of air just gets blown into the stomach anyway, and the vomit created isn’t helpful
Afaik the breathing requirement has been mostly removed and it’s all about compressions. To quote my instructor “hard, deep, fast”
I got (lovingly) hollered at in the last mock code for pausing to let the respiratory therapist ventilate. things have evolved so much these days. After my round I went back to my true calling and walked the demented guy back to his room.
Honestly even in the event of a code on my unit with my own patient 90% of my job after the first round of compressions is just providing history to the intensivist anyway. My last stroke code I mostly just stood in the corner repeating that the patient didn’t typically exaggerate or present somatically so this had to be real.
Honestly most of my job in a code not on my patient is probably going to turn out being environmental and crowd control as well, making sure the real code team has what they need where they need it and everybody else is out of the way and all the background safety stuff is still happening.
That said even with modern evidence demoting respirations this picture still goes hard asf:
Huh, I was taught 30 compressions, 2 breaths with the head lying to the side to avoid obstructions in my senior years in high school and I’m gen z so this is fairly recent but I also live in Australia
Did they just remove the breath requirement in america?
Just retrained in June, American red cross. We were taught breathes and compressions.
Nah, because chest compressions in rhythm are the best thing until medical professionals arrive. The degree to which the straws / shields help is minimal at best and actually detrimental at worst.
Also, anyone reading this should get certified. In the US, it takes a couples hours in one day and lasts a year.
In Switzerland you have to get a certificate to make your driving license and are required to have a first aid kit in your car. If you get stopped by the cops and they find the kit in your car is expired or is not to the norms you can get a fine.
What I carry most of the time with me is a Kinder-Egg capsule with latex gloves. I have them im all my bags. (You can get fucked real bad if you touch a bleeding person with your bare hands. A small cut on your hands is enough for the nastiests illness to be tranfered. At the course for certificate they made sure to tell us all about the risks.)
Also as far as I know in Switzerland, if you fail to help someone you can get can get in trouble with the law. It goes from a small fine to up to 3 years in jail.
I doubt Switzerland has the same issues as the US, but fentanyl can be absorbed through a latex glove. I switched my gloves to nitrile. Added bonus- don’t have to worry about latex allergies.
This is 100% false.
https://health.ucdavis.edu/news/headlines/can-fentanyl-be-absorbed-through-your-skin/2022/10
Fentanyl risks via skin contact is a myth.
Nitrile gloves are important for many reasons (allergies are a big one as you mentioned), but fentanyl isn’t one of them.
Huh. I work around a lot of people who use and that’s what we were told. I carry Narcan in my bag as well.
One of the cops that does security told us that they had some powder they found test positive for carfentanyl about a week ago, so I’m expecting the OD’s to come around any day now.
Yep. The whole “Fentanyl is killing first responders” myth is absolute bonkers and in a lot of cases you can’t even find any fentanyl whatsoever.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5711758/
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7443848/
In the end it is nothing more than a marketing scam paired with intentionally goverment misinformation.
fentanyl can be absorbed through a latex glove.
Pure copaganda from big babies who had a panic attack
I did my CPR and First aid earlier this year (3rd time) in Australia and mouth-to-mouth wasn’t taught as part of CPR this time.
I have wilderness first aid certs and have come across people that took up my offer of aid, not CPR specifically.
I sometimes have a mask in my kit, but it’s among the first items to get left home if I’m watching pack weight. In the wilderness, hours from a helicopter evac, if a person isn’t surviving with the help of chest compressions then air isn’t going to make any difference anyway.
I have one in a first aid kit in my vehicle – I have no clue what condition it is currently in.
Realistically you’re probably just going to be doing chest compressions until someone brings an AED and/or is a professional.
No. Last info I heard, chest compressions were all that was necessary.
Yes I am certified but I have never owned a mouth shield.
Might be worth looking into why so many medical professionals have a DNR… 🤷🏼♂️
Yeah they know better than most, that CPR rarely ends well. Better to let nature take its course and head off to heaven, than fight against it & suffer & have broken sternum & punctured heart & even a worse death .
“Heaven”. Yeah. Uh huh.
Are “cpr-certified” people trained to look for and respect medical bracelets? And will they remember that part of their training, if so? One of my worse fears is being manhandled by one of these people
That’s the risk you take when you don’t chew your food. 🤷🏼♂️
No. And even medical professionals won’t look for one before CPR starts.
Simply because there isn’t time.
Once the scene is established it’s a different deal and of course it can be a different deal when someone advises us or a condition is clearly showing. (And additionally in all jurisdictios I worked so far a medical bracelet does not constitute a binding DNR)
Well, most people I know have a “don’t bother unless I get bystander CPR/it’s witnessed”. Because then you absolutely got a chance in most regions of the world.
I have to take a first aid course every two years for work. The more I take it, the more determined I am to NEVER use any of it.
The course has gone from “Here’s a few things you can do to help someone who is injured or choking” to “Here’s how to fuck up your life and make what’s left of theirs even worse”.
The first aid course has pretty much scared me off of ever trying to help somebody beyond calling for help.
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I got certified in June. I don’t carry a mask because the risk of disease transfer is small, and I don’t want one more thing to worry about if it’s something I have to do.
There’s a small, practical first aide kit in most of my packs (2x alch pad, bandaides, benedryl, gauze pad, superglue), and a full one in my car. The one in my car is still mostly practical (all of the above plus more gauze, sling, calomine, butterfly bandage, antibiotic ointment, BP cuff, stethoscope, SpO2). Most of it is meant to stop bleeding I just don’t want on my seats.
No I am not.
I probably have a couple in my car or in old backpacks. Condition unknown.
