• naught101@lemmy.world
        45·
        2 个月前

        Even then, there’s some differences between them and within them… I’d happily vote for Mamdani if I was in New York, for instance.

          • foodandart@lemmy.zip
            17·
            2 个月前

            The problem is, NO ONE gets to the federal level as a elected politican without being a millionaire first.

            It’s classism, writ large on the lot.

          • naught101@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 个月前

            I think there’s some difference between tolerating shit colleagues (most of the “non-devil” cops), and actively trying to change the system from within (at least some of the democrats). I guess maybe there are some actively progressive cops, seems like that’d be a hard mission though…

      • dohpaz42@lemmy.worldEnglish
        21·
        2 个月前

        They may have one or two of the same goals (money, superiority complex, etc), but there is one side that is not actively not trying to bring about the fourth reich.

        ~Hint: The “lesser of two evils” are the dems, and not voting for them because they’re not perfect is (and I don’t usually go to this extreme) the most stupid and asinine argument any idiot could come up with.~

        ^In fact, dare I say, that the whole “both sides” argument is an argument created and propagated by the alt-right simply to sow discord among everyone else. The proverbial straw man fallacy, if you will.^

        • PancakesCantKillMe@lemmy.world
          11·
          2 个月前

          Agreed. Another element is that the Democrat platform “allows” for a wide range of issues and progressive ideas. The controlling faction (the ones that share greed and power values with the Republicans) stifles any real change however in order to maintain power and status quo. Progressive ideals in the Republican party are a non-starter so there is nowhere else to go. Really what ought to be happening is the Republican party getting demolished for its anti-American, anti-people, anti-freedom racist and fascist actions and a more progressive party created to compete with a possibly saner and more centric and cleaned up Democratic party. Gonna have to take out the nazi trash first though.

          There are sooo many other issues (especially with foreign/wealthy interference), but it can all be done with effort and inclination. Now where did we put that box of it?

  • nexguy@lemmy.world
    24·
    2 个月前

    Whatever the protest voter wanted to do if Trump won… they could have also done if Trump lost.

    • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
      5·
      2 个月前

      These dipshits genuinely disregarded the glaring threat that was Trump, and many of them have double or tripled down because they’re fucking children.

      They can’t let their egos aside to acknowledge reality and how they fucked up. Doomed to repeat it like they did from 2016 to 2024.

    • GraniteM@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 个月前

      “Would you rather be fighting uphill, or fighting up a sheer cliffside with armed goons shooting and throwing rocks at you from the top, and passing laws making it illegal for you to climb?”

  • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com
    22·
    2 个月前

    Stop rewarding corporate captured centrist parties for failure. They will be annihilated next time around if they come back offering the same plate of shit.

    The Dems need to learn from Republican successes. Those fucks have fully embraced the far-right, so the Dems need to put forward a true leftist agenda to fight back. Centrist politics have completely collapsed, it’s time to wake up and smell the coffee.

    • GrammarPolice@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 个月前

      I feel like what determines whether the democrats move fully to the left or not is if Zohran is able to deliver on many of his promises. If he fails they’ll use it as justification that the party should be moving more rightward. However if he succeeds, then the sky is the limit

  • Juice@midwest.social
    13·
    2 个月前

    Don’t talk about things that are actually going on, use fictional hypothetical allegories with anthropomorphized insects to illustrate a very narrow and specific kind of rationalism that isn’t supported by reality. It is such a specific and narrow way of thinking that the only way to support an argument is baby bullshit with talking ants.

    In other words: insects don’t vote, be serious. This isn’t relevant and people are dying. Stop running interference for the second worst people this degenerate society vomits into existence.

  • the_q@lemmy.zip
    12·
    2 个月前

    Hmm all the bugs wound up dead… Even the ones that we’re like “both sides” and “I don’t even live in this country.” They didn’t save anyone or change anything, they just complained the entire time they died.

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
    8·
    2 个月前

    Every single dipshit virtue signalling faux leftist that comes on here and smugly proclaims they’re proud they “didn’t vote for a genocidal candidate”, all while enabling the FAR MORE genocidal candidate to win.

  • mhague@lemmy.world
    6·
    2 个月前

    Plot twist: you’re the fly and the ants killed you to find common ground with the insecticide.

  • ghosthacked@lemmy.wtf
    3·
    2 个月前

    This is still a racist meme. So immigrants and minorities are being equivocated to roaches now?

    When this is all over, the world needs to have kept notes on all who enabled/encouraged/maintained paradigms that were naziesque in nature.

    This meme reeks of gated community democracy. “It’s the OK as long as it’s not in my neighborhood!”

    • zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
      7·
      2 个月前

      This meme doesn’t equivocate roaches with minorities, it equivocates roaches with Democrats. The ants are Republicans voting for Trump, the insecticide harming everyone.

    • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
      7·
      2 个月前

      I mean, we’re seeing a rapid rise of the far right in almost every Western nation at about the same time.

      This is relevant to much of the world

        • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
          1·
          2 个月前

          I mean, Latin countries are certainly in danger too.

          A fascist America means cold war era coup attempts in Latin countries are back. Maybe the US support won’t be in any way incognito whatsoever this time. US might straight up be sending troops all over Central and South America soon.

          Look at what’s happening to Venezuela right now.

          • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
            1·
            2 个月前

            A fascist America means cold war era coup attempts in Latin countries are back

            I mean, it’s not like Milei, Bolsonaro or the Nobel Prize laureate aren’t heavily supported by the US. “Cold war coups” never really stopped in Latin American countries

            • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 个月前

              Prepare for it to esculate.

              At least if we still had a democracy, it’d be easier to both spread the word and engage in meaningful protest to stop or severely hinder it domestically.

              We don’t get that now. Nearly no mainstream media outlet has made mention of Venezuela until a Dem asked about it this week, and even so it ain’t getting the coverage it needs.

              • Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com
                1·
                2 个月前

                How did the “democracy” prevent all the Cold War shit? Millions of murdered in Vietnam, Korea, Laos, Cambodia, Cuba, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Iraq… US warmongering is bipartisan and kills millions regardless

                • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  2 个月前

                  Also, one of the main reasons the Vietnam war ended was mass protests against it.

                  The war had become extremely unpopular in the USA.

                • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  2 个月前

                  Democracy in the digital age makes the atrocities of a country harder to hide from their domestic population than fascism, wouldn’t you agree?