• Archangel1313@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    So, all this talk about, “If there was anything to see, why didn’t Biden do anything about it, while he was in charge?” was all just more bullshit, then?

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      So what exactly did Biden accomplish regarding the Epstein files then?

      I’m usually a Biden defender. He was a liberal, but was arguably the 2nd most progressive president in US history. That being said, I don’t remember seeing Trump in handcuffs and an orange jump suit. I don’t remember seeing the US calling for Prince Andrew to be extradited. I don’t remember dozens of wealthy and powerful people being brought to justice.

      So, yeah, I still think it’s fair to criticize the Biden administration for not doing enough.

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        30 days ago

        He was a liberal, but was arguably the 2nd most progressive president in US history.

        his anti-gay stance was a cornerstone of his first presidential campaign; then he conventiently went along w gay-marriage after the public opinion had already had changed on it; then his presidency was marked by a pair laws that gives cover to anti-gay bigots and an anti-trans law a the end of his term.

        nevermind that he did less than nothing in making the equal rights amendment a thing and leveraged against project 2025.

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          29 days ago

          Don’t forget he threw Anita Hill under the bus and let her get hit by every wheel which to me is extremely gross.

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            29 days ago

            i think that this friendship with strom thurmond was the most stomach turning.

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        Investigations actually take a lot of time. If they’re done correctly, they typically take years. People don’t seem to understand that there are meticulous procedures to follow when doing this stuff. If even one shred of evidence was mishandled or collected and catalogued in the wrong way, the whole thing can potentially fall apart in court. Every “I” needs to be dotted, and every “T” needs to be crossed. And then they all need to to be triple checked again, for accuracy.

        Expecting results to happen in a matter of months or even just a few years, is 100% unrealistic. If you want to know what a rushed investigation and/or prosecution looks like, Trump is giving you all the examples of how that works out. His prosecutors all look incompetent and every case they’ve brought before a judge is getting tossed out on every kind of technicality, in addition to a total lack of credible evidence. Why? Because they are not following the well established procedures that are designed to guarantee a conviction.

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          Epstein was arrested in 2019, before Biden was elected.

          He had 4 full years to do anything at all and ended up with nothing.

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            Not according to Epstein’s victims. They seem to be under the impression that the investigation was actually on track to produce results…but then Trump took office and it all got shut down. That’s why they’re all standing up now, demanding that the files get released. The cover up is happening right now…not when Biden was in office.

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          29 days ago

          So go ahead and name for me all of the YS presidents who weren’t complicit in genocide then?

          Heck, I said 2nd most because FDR is the undisputed most progressive president in history, but he still oversaw Japanese internment camps on US soil. Biden is, arguably, the 2nd most progressive US president in history. That’s a relative position and an incredibly low bar.

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            29 days ago

            Biden is a careerist warmonger and opportunist there is nothing progressive about him.

            Unless you just fully discard brown and black people as humans and you transform the word progressive into “gay rights”. In which case Biden was still a horrible opportunist.

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                When measured against their contemporaries? JFK, FDR, Eisenhower, Carter. Hell, Biden was a contemporary of Carter and was very much to the right of him.

                Which is still a meaningless distinction because the least antisemitic Nazi is still a fucking nazi.

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    29 days ago

    To be clear, a sitting president of the United States of America is either a child rapist, or is being blackmailed by child rapists.