The new order came hours after The Post reported the service would instead classify such symbols as “potentially divisive” under guidelines set for release next month.
Just yesterday, they had decided to take them off their list of hate symbols. But Americans, unlike Republicans, don’t like Nazis.
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And yet all the totenkopfs and SS runes will continue to be ignored. Sorry, “punisher skulls” and “really cool lightning bolts”
Still. Good to see that there is A line. Even if it is one mostly built around decorum rather than actually caring about white supremacy.
Tbf even if it IS the punisher skull that’s still a massive dogwhistle.
I have yet to meet someone showcasing that that also wasn’t showing fascist tendencies…
These are the people Frank would be hunting.
I need to watch the new Daredevil because I’ve been told theres a big beautiful punisher battle for those of us that realize the punisher would kick the shit out of LEOs that use his imagery.
I seriously don’t understand why folks in law enforcement and the military use the Punisher imagery.
To be fair, I am in the military (not the American one though) and I like the Punisher comics and films.
But the Punisher represents the absolute FAILURE of the system. As law enforcement and military, WE are the supposed to be the system. Using those colours implies that we are failures. I don’t believe that’s a good place to be starting from.
Frank himself (or at least his authors) agree.
I made a kick ass punisher Windows XP theme way back. But thay was when the movie came out and I just thought the black and white theme and skull start button looked cool.
Who would’ve thought this would blow up in their faces? /s
I commented on the previous story how I was surprised that they did the Nazi symbols at the same time as the Confederate symbols, essentially admitting that they have almost the same meaning. A racist with even the tiniest shred of intelligence would do the Confederate symbols first and the Nazi ones later.
And now here we are, the Nazi symbols are back on the list, but nobody is talking about the Confederate symbols.
A racist with even the tiniest shred of intelligence
Well I think I see the problem…
“We’re going to allow Nazis into the U.S. military unless there’s enough pushback.”
Could our federal government be more pathetic? Is it even possible?
Well they already have increased their employment opportunities by allowing them in ICE…. this was just further expansion.
I think it bears mentioning that the Coast Guard is the only military service branch organized under Dept. of Homeland Security, rather than Dept. of Defense.
They’re the only military branch so far
Also might be worth noting that thanks to 287(g):
The 287(g) Program allows your law enforcement agency to enforce certain aspects of U.S. immigration law, expanding your department’s authority to: •Identify and process removable aliens with pending or active criminal charges. •Enforce limited immigration authorities with ICE oversight during routine duties. •Serve and execute administrative warrants on removable aliens in your jail.
In some states, national guard and local law enforcement branches are already officially partnered with ICE/DHS, and with task forces like the one in Memphis you have a shit ton of local and federal agencies all partnering together under DHS.
What federal agencies are in Memphis Safe Task Force? Here’s all of them and what they do
Department of Defense,
Department of Treasury
Department of Justice
Department of Health and Human Services
Department of Housing and Urban development
Department of Homeland Security
Department of Transportation
U.S. Marshalls
FBI
ATF
DEA
Homeland Security Investigations
U.S. Attorney for the Western District of TN.
Yep. And remember folks, every secret service, FBI, DEA, or ATF agent out on the streets abducting brown people is one less agent working their regular counterfeiting, terrorism, public corruption, money laundering, drug trafficking, or weapons cases.
I can definitely see the concern there, but I also question who is left to be redirected to these roles at this point besides Trump loyalists?
But secretly they won’t.
“Not as popular as we hoped it would be, we’ll try again in a few months.”
Right? The blowback will be minimal though it makes you wonder what other kinds of initiatives they’re playing around with behind the scenes… It’s great they reversed it but why the fuck did they ever make it ok in the first place?!
The fact that this was even entertained is proof we’re in deep into Nazi land. Guillotine for president 2028!
Fucking DHS is the problem child
Exactly. Trump is not the source of our problems, he is the inevitable result of policies that bush started and Obama/Biden did nothing to scale back. DHS is one example out of many.
Gotta go further back to Regan and Nixon…the Republicans were pissed they couldn’t do the things they are doing now…Regan’s lawyers were Bush’s lawyers are supreme court justices now
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JUST BE NAZIS. ffs
Then we can see the corruption we need to burn out.
disband the coast guard, create something new. clearly the CG needs a power wash
They realised people would draw graffiti of Nazis being hanged I see
“Lol you guyz! J/k of course, it was a prank. The look on your face right now lol. You really should lighten up and learn how to take a joke…”
I’m envisioning a Nazi goose-stepping at someone who has their back to them, but every time they turn around to see what the goose-stepping and weird chanting/singing is all about, the Nazi acts completely oblivious and innocent. Once their back is turned it starts up again, coming closer and closer until the goose-stepping Nazi is breathing down their neck.
Eventually we’re going to have to choose between pretending we don’t know there’s a goose-stepping Nazi breathing down our necks until after he stomps us into the ground, or we’re going to have to turn around, and demand he takes off his uniform before we accidentally “overreact,” and punch him in the face.
When they first banned the swastika in australia (2023?), nazis posted photos of them holding shields with 30 different nazi symbols on them.
Classifying these things as hate sumbols does nothing, but it will shortly turn around and outlaw communist symbols.
lol did i just say at first they came for the swastika? But seriously the people who initially pushed for these laws are racist cretins who want nazis marching beside them, under national flags.
Oh shut up
What it does in this context is make it a criminal act to get tattooed under ucmj. If they get caught with patches or drawing it or whatever they get enhanced punishments because of what it is.
What taking away the classification did is make it so it was no longer illegal to decorate military property with swastikas and such.
What a take from the .mler — don’t you know not to speak unless Cowbee is already in the room? You should figure that out.
I agree and understand, but people here will read into the worst interpretation, both because reactionary feelings are easier to justify and because you have .ml
This is why the right-wing state media keeps pressing Mamdani and other politicians on their condemnation of particular terms, words and media personalities.
It’s not because they actually care about promotion or condemnation of particular aesthetic symbols, slogans or phrases, it’s because they desperately want to normalize policing these things. They want a country built on performative “crackdowns” against any kind of speech that they don’t like. This is why we have freedom of expression held so sacred, because it goes both ways.
Yes, it is “at first they came for the swastika” because by itself a swastika is nothing, it’s the way it’s used and what the intention of its use means that’s more important, but the right is learning that they can leverage reactionaries on both sides into promoting a culture of blanket censorship.
This whole thing with the Coast Guard and whoever else flip-flopping is just the outcome of a system that has been built to resist aesthetic politics feeling pulled in different directions. It has less to do with actual nazis and more to do with “are we political entities or do we serve the constitution.”
The fact that it’s now making a LOT of people on the left scream for greater policing of symbols is exactly what they wanted from this.
I think you’re right about everything you’ve said, I think you’re wrong to associate this with what the .mler said.
They would be perfectly fine with blanket censorship under communist rule.
So the USCGC Eagle isn’t getting its original name back after all?
Trump and Israel seem to have broken America at some fundamental level.
