Maybe I haven’t updated Windows 11 enough yet. I’ve always been avoiding it but I will have to support someone that needs to upgrade so I installed it in a VM to see how horrible it was.
To my surprise, after uninstalling most of Microsoft’s crap like the Copilot app, One Drive, Teams, O365, and after changing the contex and start menu, it’s clean enough to be acceptable.
Is it only a question of time before Windows Update reinstalls all of this? Or it’s because my old hardware is not “AI enabled”?
I know it won’t be possible to debloat as much in the future but so far, a lot of it some of it seems to thankfully be avoidable with a bit of tech savviness.
EDIT: Haha. I don’t use it a lot and it shows. I’m just messing around and there’s a Copilot icon in Notepad!
That still won’t remove all the underlying spyware built into the core system, and yes, it is inevitable that an update will reinstall at least some of those applications.
At least, assuming they haven’t changed that strategy from Windows 10, which regularly reinstalled MS apps that users had removed.
I stopped supporting hardware years ago when their users didn’t switch to Ubuntu (that OS is maintenance free, I never hear from any problems). As long as it isn’t hardcore gamers (which have to help themselves) nobody “needs” windows on their private machine.
I hate Windows and I’m very much aware that we should avoid it if possible. I have been using Linux Slackware then Debian for decades, but since I’m a tech guy and it’s “what I do”, I help if possible. However I warn anyone asking for help with Windows that I don’t like it, it may cost more, there are other alternatives, this is not what I prefer, and I’m gonna bitch and whine. And over the years I have successfully convinced a few people asking my help, to use Linux. Usually I just install LMDE for people that only do light stuff, and it makes helping them so much easier.
In that case the person is running a business, with accounting software that runs only on Windows. Outlook and Office are also huge tethers and switching to Linux was not really an option for now. Maybe in the future. Maybe Windows 11 will prove to be more problems than its worth and we’ll try run the accounting software in wine and find solutions to the Office addiction. But so far the easiest course is unfortunately to try Win 11 first, try to debloat it, and… see.
Maybe I haven’t updated Windows 11 enough yet. I’ve always been avoiding it but I will have to support someone that needs to upgrade so I installed it in a VM to see how horrible it was.
To my surprise, after uninstalling most of Microsoft’s crap like the Copilot app, One Drive, Teams, O365, and after changing the contex and start menu, it’s clean enough to be acceptable.
Is it only a question of time before Windows Update reinstalls all of this? Or it’s because my old hardware is not “AI enabled”?
I know it won’t be possible to debloat as much in the future but so far,
a lot of itsome of it seems tothankfullybe avoidable with a bit of tech savviness.EDIT: Haha. I don’t use it a lot and it shows. I’m just messing around and there’s a Copilot icon in Notepad!
That still won’t remove all the underlying spyware built into the core system, and yes, it is inevitable that an update will reinstall at least some of those applications.
At least, assuming they haven’t changed that strategy from Windows 10, which regularly reinstalled MS apps that users had removed.
It will. I re-run O&O ShutUp after every update to keep my install functional and clean.
I stopped supporting hardware years ago when their users didn’t switch to Ubuntu (that OS is maintenance free, I never hear from any problems). As long as it isn’t hardcore gamers (which have to help themselves) nobody “needs” windows on their private machine.
Gamers don’t need Windows.
There are games with “kernel level anti cheat” that don’t run on Linux. Fortnite is one example.
If you know a way to run Fortnite reliably and stable on Linux please tell me, I’d be very thankful. For most games you are right.
I hate Windows and I’m very much aware that we should avoid it if possible. I have been using Linux Slackware then Debian for decades, but since I’m a tech guy and it’s “what I do”, I help if possible. However I warn anyone asking for help with Windows that I don’t like it, it may cost more, there are other alternatives, this is not what I prefer, and I’m gonna bitch and whine. And over the years I have successfully convinced a few people asking my help, to use Linux. Usually I just install LMDE for people that only do light stuff, and it makes helping them so much easier.
In that case the person is running a business, with accounting software that runs only on Windows. Outlook and Office are also huge tethers and switching to Linux was not really an option for now. Maybe in the future. Maybe Windows 11 will prove to be more problems than its worth and we’ll try run the accounting software in wine and find solutions to the Office addiction. But so far the easiest course is unfortunately to try Win 11 first, try to debloat it, and… see.