• w3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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    Had to check the date on the article because this is not the first woman in scrubs on her way to work being yanked out of a car while telling ICE that she is a citizen.

    We live in a dystopian hell and for some reason we keep acting like it’s all fine.

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      I have never heard of this and with the average IQ of a Floridian I wouldn’t think they are in the know either.

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    She is visible white and 👱 blond, a medical worker, speaks with no accent.

    She was eventually let go.

    The first one is why the second one happened.

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    These ICE agents deserve the worst possible sentence. Especially as they caused many forced disappearances, which are crimes against humanity.

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      Hire them? They need to spend the rest of their lives in prison. The most egregious and violent ones should have capitol punishment handed down.

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    Side note, why is she bringing her scrubs outside the hospital? Don’t you return them after your shift in America, to be washed and such?

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      These are likely not the drab, standard, facility-provided surgical or operating scrubs that even the I.T. staff has to change in to (or don over top) before crossing the red line into a clean zone, ‘red’ room or room with isolation precautions. These are the other personally-supplied garments staff wear to look professional in a medical setting. These are the same ones that are sometimes replaced with T-shirts and such on casual friday or department-coordinated Hallowe’en costumes on October 31.

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                I’m a massage therapist 😄

                The preceding conversation taught me that scrub-wearing people who work in hospitals don’t wear their scrubs outside the facility & don’t have to wash them themselves, they leave their scrubs at work and there’s a separate crew responsible for scrubs laundry.

                My life is not like that.

                The worst filth my scrubs ever encounter are my own body sweat & occasional massage lotion mishaps.

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                  Hey, massage therapy is good for well-being, too. 🩵 Maybe not as “noble” per se but it’s a good service for those that afford it. 😁✌️

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      Do you mean why did ICE abduct her from work inside the hospital and drag her outside kicking & screaming without giving her a chance to change her clothes?

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        No.

        But if that’s what happened, I have the answer to my question.

        I’m also wondering why ICE abducted her period, not really specifically from where. 👍 But like I said, this was a side note.

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          Sign this paper saying you won’t talk about this and we’ll let you go.

          According to the secret stuff law, if you talk about this we’ll arrest you again.

          Pick one.

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        That’s the first thing that came to mind, like, wouldn’t you want to contain that mess? Wash instantly?

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      sometimes; my mum doesn’t do that often, preferring to wash them at home. in her words, when asked why, she said: “the detergent the hospital uses smells like used clorox wipes left out in the sun and then freezed for 1 day”. how she knows what that smells like is beyond me…

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      Nothing would happen. Just a waste of money. And if it came to it, they would just get pardoned.

      There is no law in the USA. Trump is the law.

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      I hope someone hunts down her assailants one by one, tortures them psychologically, makes them suffer physically and broadcasts it all as a warning to other fascist fuckwits before delivering upon them the fate all Nazis deserve.

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      She literally can’t, ICE agents are federal agents which means they have civil immunity from lawsuits that are a direct result of their duties. Unless they’re doing something that a reasonable person would understand to be a breach of the law. That said the federal courts seem to use Donald Trump’s circumstantial definition of a reasonable person and only his. So fat chance there’s a legal solution to this.

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        I feel very reasonably that warrantless searches and seizures while not in uniform and face coverings and no badges IS A BREACH OF THE LAW!!!

        Not to even mention all the countless people that have been disappeared or deported to God knows where with no information given to their families or anything. Just poof gone. No jury, no trial, no proof they did anything wrong, no positive ID they are even who they are. None of it.

        Please explain how any of that could possibly be legal and how any reasonable person wouldn’t consider it evil and terrible and utterly terrifying and dystopian?

        How is everyone NOT upset at how awful this all is?

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    I really hope there’s an american nuremberg, and i hope they claim they were just following orders, because as with the original nazis, that’s been proven to not be a valid excuse. I hope these cunts go to prison for the rest of their lives.

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      You know how many Nazis were hung in the Nuremberg trials? Like 10. Everyone else was basically acquitted. You cannot rely on systems of power to punish transgressors.

      Geller vid

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      You lovingly forgave the traitors of the civil war, you gave high research positions to nazis after world war II, the signs are not hopeful

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        It’s actually surprising how they happen to have two million prisoners. Clearly, some people are going to jail.

        In other news the justice department commissioned an AI to automate sentencing of convicted felons but had second thoughts when it transpired the robot had become racist after being trained on the judicial records. True story.

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      Nothing will happen to them. Nothing happened to the National guard who murdered and stabbed students in 1970.

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        Kent state, Blair Mountain, irradiating special needs kids, Greenwood District, forced sterilisation, MOVE…

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          These people will be protected and suffer no consequences, because the oligarchy in the US knows it will need more thugs who can operate with impunity. This is why Trump released the Jan 6th rioters. National guard literally murdered and stabbed students in multiple instances in 1970 and nothing happened to them. Most got promoted.

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            You’re basically right, and I think we can aspire to better through some well harnessed anger and direct action.

            Maybe we should tell people what Direct Action is.

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      Sadly most Nazis minus a few higher ups went without punishment. Many scientists even ended up working for the US as part of Operation Paperclip. Like the Civil War, the punishment NEVER fits the crime and these assholes mainly get off scot-free with no repercussions. Which always leads to a resurgence at some point.

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        The Nuremberg trials were in my opinion exceedingly light in their judgments overall - too many Germans were guilty to practically execute or jail them all.

        The same degree of lenience in this case would be a travesty.

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      I hope so too but I have no faith in the democrats or the current American justice system to make it happen. The only way I see it happening is revolution or war. Otherwise, the federal government will just go on acting like all of this was perfectly normal

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      Unless the citizens start showing up to protests armed our corrupt politicians will do nothing as they’ve always done

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      Ahh. But that was for Germans. Just following orders is a valid excuse for Americans, as the war crimes trials during the vietnam spanking made clear.

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    All ICE agents should be treated with nothing but disdain and ridicule for the rest of their lives. We need a running list of their identities so they can be ostracized. Monuments should be built at Arlington so they can join Robert E. Lee in their shame. Make it a public urinal, right at the entrance.