• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    they were held up at gunpoint

    Would be nice if they didn’t have access to guns right? Perfect example why guns should be banned. Because what would you do, invading a home to ving people when you don’t have anything to hold them at gunpoint with?

    I know I know he was a master criminal because weed

    Selling a bit of weed is being a master criminal? Mate, what rock are you living under?

    and the guy stabbed him and stole the weed

    Wtf, did he sell it in a back alley to a stranger or something? My drug dealer is a good friend of mine, he always takes care of his clients, which are all his friends. Like seriously, getting stabbed for a bit of weed? How much of the story are you not telling me? Who would stab for a bit of weed? I mean, if he had 5 kilos of cocain I’d understand if someone tried to tip him off, but a bit of weed? Makes no sense. But again, access to weapons makes use of them more likely. Whether it’s guns or knives, or anything else.

    but we did hear gunshots in the distance every night and I found a crushed .40sw round right next to my mailbox

    Again, would have been great if no one had guns. Ban that shit!

    I’m also nice to people, I also “don’t have any enemies,” so are my friends, but it seems not everyone needs to think of you as an “enemy” before they attack you

    Bro, maybe move to another neighborhood which isn’t a fucking war zone. I know, it’s easily talking when loving I na first world country and giving advice to someone living in a 3rd world country, but I know people in the US and there are places where the violence is much lower than other places like Detroit for example.

    So yeah it’s not all about “enemies,” nor “locks” even if you were an agoraphobe.

    I agree, it’s mostly about people having easy access to lethal weapons which makes the lives of everyone else much less safe.

    Over here I can go onto the streets, everywhere at any time, day or night, without having to fear for my life. I’m not saying there isn’t crime and women can do the same as we have less nice neighborhoods as well, but at least we don’t have to fear for our lives when going outside. When someone gets killed it’s national news as it’s so rare, everyone is in shock. There are 0.2 to 0.25 deaths by guns per 100.000 inhabitants per year, which is a steap increase compared to 10 years ago, with the coming of the Moroccan èn Mexican mafia these days. In the US it’s 13.7 in 2023 which is lower than the years before. But sure, keep discarding statistics and blame anything but guns. You give examples of people with easy access to weapons committing crimes, as an argument for having guns while it’s exactly why you shouldn’t have any. We’re not allowed to have tasers, pepperspray, numchucks, knuckelirons, rubber sticks or any other weapons. Crime is so low because of that, criminals don’t want to pay 7000 euros for a crappy pistol on a black marked they don’t even have connections to, just to rob someone of their wallet which doesn’t even contain cash money anymore. Also, we build our houses from stone and concrete, with proper locks the time to break in is longer than it takes for the cops to arrive. No one is worried about anyone entering their house to hurt them. People just worry about their iPad getting stolen, or their bike. Which happens without weapons, BECAUSE NO ONE HAS THEM.

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      Would be nice if they didn’t have access to guns right?

      Sure, but they did, and my money is on “not legally,” but either way they did. There’s 600,000,000+ already out there with no registry and 3d printed glocks are a thing now. They can get them and will continue to be able to, pandora’s box has been opened.

      Also if you look back far enough in history: blind bet, I bet you 1,000 internet points home invasions existed before firearms. Likely before gunpowder even, actually. I mean Viking raids alone…

      Selling a bit of weed is being a master criminal? Mate, what rock are you living under?

      Ah you’re from a country that has never heard of sarcasm, my apologies.

      Wtf, did he sell it in a back alley to a stranger or something?

      Parking lot of a closed-for-the-night Veterinarian’s office on a main road to a regular customer we considered a friendly acquaintance up until that point, why? We know his government name and have met his brother (of course, we didn’t snitch and afaik he is now in prison, or maybe was, for robbing a gas station). He still stabbed my friend and sent him to the hospital. Idk what to tell you, I agree he should probably not have stabbed my friend over 2oz but he did, so, sorry?

      Again, would have been great if no one had guns. Ban that shit!

      Again, probably illegally possessed and won’t be gone anytime soon even if they were illegal to possess. And even if they were legal, they are already there.

      Bro, maybe move to another neighborhood which isn’t a fucking war zone.

      Rich and privileged European disconnected from the reality of America? Why am I not surprised?

      there are places where the violence is much lower than other places like Detroit for example.

      I’m going to assume based on the above observation you don’t understand the subtle racism here. It’s there though, for future reference.

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        They can get them and will continue to be able to, pandora’s box has been opened.

        Yhrt3e a difference to being able to buy a gun for a few hundred bucks in a supermarket and only being able to buy a questionable quality gun for several thousand euros on the black market, something which isn’t accessible to anyone (I don’t know anyone who sells guns for example). Sure, 3D printed guns are a thing too, but mostly because parts can be bought freely in the US which can me CNCed into workable parts. Those parts aren’t legal here either.

        Also if you look back far enough in history:

        Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?

        Ah you’re from a country that has never heard of sarcasm, my apologies.

        The Dutch are super sarcastic. I’m autistic, I have a hard time picking it up, sorry.

        Again, probably illegally possessed and won’t be gone anytime soon even if they were illegal to possess. And even if they were legal, they are already there.

        Australia is a good example. They banned guns all at once, people got angry. Now they live without gun violence. Don’t say it’s not possible.

        Rich and privileged

        I’m not. Well, I am privileged to have been born here, that’s true. But I’ve seen a lot around the world. Nice places and horrific places (like Mogadishu for example) filled with terror. Because I’ve been to these places, not from reading about it on the internet. I haven’t been to the US though, but I have friends from there (from all around). I may be rich compared to people in Africa but also I have to live from paycheck to paycheck, don’t own a house, no car, no savings etc.

        I’m going to assume based on the above observation you don’t understand the subtle racism here. It’s there though, for future reference.

        I don’t understand. Saying Detroit has a high crime rate is racist? Or saying not all places in the US have a high crime rate is racist? Could you explain it, I honestly don’t get it. Sorry.

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          There’s 600,000,000 out there already that are not going anywhere, the price isn’t going down any time soon even if we make them illegal. Not to mention pipe shotguns, the LutySMG, the FGC9, countless reloaders with tonnes of components, and trillions of rounds of stashed ammo across the whole US civilians’ collections, good luck. Even if people would comply with an Aus style buyback, that would be astronomically expensive at the scale required to even get the percentage of guns they got (which was like 20%, and they are now back up to their 1996 amount of guns at 3.2mil.)

          Those were different times. So you’re afraid of vikings invading if guns were to be banned?

          You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.

          You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro” because that’s exactly what you did. Do you think the people in bad neighborhoods stay for the ice cream trucks? No it’s because they can’t afford to move to a nicer area, hell sometimes the nicer area moves to them and pushes them out because now they can’t afford that neighborhood anymore, it’s called gentrification.

          Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example of racist bullshit, though now that is becoming Chicago it’s still basically a “Ah this is a 60-65yo republican I’m talking to” dogwhistle. Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.

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            that would be astronomically expensive

            Guns are too. What do you think it costs in health care, police, intelligence services, dealing with bodies, loss of work force (as they are dead) etc? Why not stop deporting people, as that actually is astronomically expensive. You can just make excuses why to keep guns, saying it’s impossible, but is has been proven it’s possible and statistics show it works.

            You’re the one that thinks nobody ever invaded someone’s home before guns existed lol, that’s on you.

            Again, those were different times. I live in a country where it’s national news if something like a violent home invasion happens. Same with all the other countries around us.

            You’re privileged enough to tell poor people in bad neighborhoods to “just move somewhere better bro”

            If you live in a war zone, yeah, fleeing is the better option. I have friends who fled from war, who traveled from Iraq and Syria with nothing. If the alternative is a high probability of losing your life, I’d know what I’d chose.

            Detroit is a city often tied to black people and poverty and was usually used as every racist uncle’s example

            I chose Detroit as an example as it has high crime rates. You made it racist by assuming I meant black people. Wrong assumption.

            Like I said I assume by “privileged European” you didn’t know that.

            Indeed, I didn’t know you would find a way to change so. Thing I said into something racist. I may be a “privileged European” but I’ve been in wars myself, I’ve been homeless once, I’m unable to work anymore due to really bad PTSD due to my wartime experience, I’ve seen hundreds of people drown while fleeing from war, I’ve seen people being tortured, I’ve seen dead babies on the side of the road, etc. But what do I know about gun violence, being poor and surviving, right?

            The issue I mostly have with Americans is their claim of having a monopoly on the truth, knowing everything better while not knowing anything from the rest of the world. You’re not much different so far.

            Get rid of guns and violence will drastically decrease. Or you can just add more guns and enjoy killing each other The Purge style, as you all are so full of hate towards each other.